300 series rumors??? (4 Viewers)

[pknju]

Lexus head wants luxury body on frame SUVs

www.autonews.com/sales/toyota-bids-adieu-land-cruiser-lexus-roader-possibility
www.msn.com/en-us/autos/-/-/ar-BB1cFqki

there is "white space" in Lexus' lineup for a Land Cruiser-like vehicle, something Lexus dealers have wanted for a while.....and I think Lexus has got to continue to grow and look into those open spaces.

when it comes to the great outdoors, there is more room to grow

We have body-on-frame vehicles that would lend themselves to that type of execution, if we decide to go that way," said Gilleland, who took over the helm at the Lexus brand last year. "You know, for me personally, I'm an outdoorsman. I would love to see us do it. I think it's a viable business model.

 

[Jetboy]

I believe the "A" represents the "dynamic force" engine group of features - basically undersquare engines with high thermal efficiency from a bunch of little improvements and a meaningless naming convention.

Also - still soldiering on with the 1GR? Bold move Toyota. Bold move.

Lots of info here on the V35A - Toyota engines - V35 - Dynamic Force series (V6) - https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/19-09-10_faq_df_v6_eng.htm - what's interesting is that there's a lot of design details are specific for 4x4, so it looks like it was designed all along for a 4x4.

 

[04UZJ100]

I believe the "A" represents the "dynamic force" engine group of features - basically undersquare engines with high thermal efficiency from a bunch of little improvements and a meaningless naming convention.

Also - still soldiering on with the 1GR? Bold move Toyota. Bold move.

Lots of info here on the V35A - Toyota engines - V35 - Dynamic Force series (V6) - https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/19-09-10_faq_df_v6_eng.htm - what's interesting is that there's a lot of design details are specific for 4x4, so it looks like it was designed all along for a 4x4.

Toyota doesn’t care about efficiency in its ROTW market hence why the V6 lives on.

 

[Jetboy]

I would have expected the 2GR at least. 1GR Is not really a very good engine by most metrics - efficiency, power, torque, NVH, etc. It's kinda the definition of mediocre.

 

[Mazderati]

Lots of info here on the V35A - Toyota engines - V35 - Dynamic Force series (V6) - https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/19-09-10_faq_df_v6_eng.htm - what's interesting is that there's a lot of design details are specific for 4x4, so it looks like it was designed all along for a 4x4.

That link is a treasure trove of information. Have you seen anything similar for the UR series? Looked around the site but didn't see anything.

 

[Onur]

You can get the UR information from the NCF at techinfo.toyota.com Buy a subscription, download the NCF information and you will have everything associated with design goals and technical operation of each system for the UR engine series.

 

[Mazderati]

^ I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

 

[JuanJ]

While perusing the Toyota Europe technical data base for something completely different.... this popped up:

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So, this would mean at least fo the Europe market, the 300 series will come with the 1GR-FE engine as well as a new V6 common-rail turbo diesel variant. The new engine nomenclatures are difficult to decipher.... F33A is new to me. -FTV is not.

F= DOHC
T= Turbocharged
V= Common Rail Diesel injection

F33A could mean the following:

F= TNGA F platform (Trucks)
33= Displacement. 3.3L
A= ??

This engine would fit with the new TNGA engines Toyota is developing across all product lines as they enter into TNGA systemization.

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Hello,

Is the F33 engine going into the 70 Series?

Incidentally, it is good to see a Land Cruiser engine with an F in its name.





Juan

 

[Jetboy]

That link is a treasure trove of information. Have you seen anything similar for the UR series? Looked around the site but didn't see anything.

Sorry. I have no idea where the info there came from. But it is pretty extreme in the detail. I can only assume it's from Toyota's own design and engineering team in some sort of publication that was put on that website. I've never seen anything like it for other engines to that level of detail.

IMO - It's a great truck/SUV engine. The long stroke and high compression turbo setup is pretty unusual - but it should make heeps of low rpm power. On paper it looks like diesel power output at low-mid rpms. It should have similar torque to the new v6 3.3L turbo diesel - all of the small diesel domestics are in the ~450 - 500 ft lb range at the same rpms. In the car version the V35A is tuned for 440 ft lb at 1600rpms. The 3UR makes 401 tq, but not until 3800 rpms. At 1600 where the V35A is hitting 440, the 3UR is around 300. At 2,000 rpms the V35A has 50% more power than the 5.7. But that all depends on the tune for the Tundra/LC200 though. Could go up or down pretty easily depending on what Toyota wants to do with it.

 

[tincan45]

 

[Onur]

More click bait.

 

[linuxgod]

This seems to be the one vaguely useful thing from it. @Onur does this help you deciper what the A stands for? Hybrid designation, maybe?

 

[tincan45]

@Onur I thought it had some useful info. This is after all a speculation/rumor thread. He seems to be keep up with this a lot better than most. I thought the LX was going to be the LX600, but now he is calling it the LX 750h. Time will tell.

 

[lowenbrau]

Hello,

Is the F33 engine going into the 70 Series?

Incidentally, it is good to see a Land Cruiser engine with an F in its name.





Juan

It'll be weird to have an F diesel though.

 

[speedkills]

"A new spy shot posted on mag-x.com allegedly shows the next-gen Toyota Land Cruiser for the first time. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 test mule was caught at the Hamanako service area on the Tomei Expressway in Japan. Little can be made out except for a massive, classically upright front fascia from the prototype, but it’s finally something visual."

from: 2022 Toyota Land Cruiser launch nears; to get 3.5L V6 Hybrid (topelectricsuv.com)

 

[lowtideride]

Im pretty confident its gonna be ugly as all hell.

 

[drmwvr]

Posted on an Aussie LC forum I follow. Looks legit...we will see. Interesting that it is left hand drive with Toyota badging. Perhaps for the Russian market?

 

[drmwvr]

A few more

 

[Joshuak172]

A few more

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Nice. Looks like we may have to buy an LX

 

[JohnPW]

Nice. Looks like we may have to buy an LX

Based on numerous reports the replacement for the LX570 will no longer be based on the Land Cruiser. Instead it will be a unibody vehicle like the Mercedes GLS. There will not be a vehicle in North America based on the 300 series LC.