2F engine died a year ago

[cristian]

Hello buddies, finish assembling the electrical system of an old abandoned 2F has about a year.

Although aware that probably will not turn, because I try to check the electrical system was fine. Indeed, the electrical system is working, but the engine would not start.

The question is: what steps do you recommend to follow, according to expertise, to proceed to loosen the engine components and ensure that it can come back to life?

I annex as comments: this engine was failing and the last time you turned it on, I think it was the cylinder head gasket that was burned. I need to arrest him move it, the rest was in good condition, no oil consumption.

 

[Pighead]

I think first you will need to find out why it died and why it does not turn over now. Could be one or more of several reasons. You need to dis-assemble until you find what went wrong. Check main bearings, rod bearings and pistons until you can turn it over by hand.

 

[cristian]

The engine was functioning relatively well, I just forget it and turned it on no more than a year ago.

 

[bikersmurf]

If you remove the spark plugs (mark leads to put back on), can you turn it over by hand? Or is it too hard to turn over?

 

[cristian]

If you remove the spark plugs (mark leads to put back on), can you turn it over by hand? Or is it too hard to turn over?

I have not tried to turn it without the spark plugs, just try to start with a battery and do not turn.

The question is that would take into account their good advice before attempting to arrest him again.

 

[Pighead]

Oh, so it did not "die"...you just parked it. And now wish to re-start it? Should be easy. People do that with LandCruisers all the time. Give it some fresh fuel, fresh battery, clean the plugs, maybe some new oil. Should start right up.

 

[rsbcruiser]

Remove the plugs. Use a flashlight to look down into the cylinders. Do you see rust in there? If so then squirt a little tranny fluid in the cylinders. Let it sit for a while and then try to turn it by hand. You don't say if you can hear the starter engage. Does it engage? Is the problem the starter or is the motor frozen?

 

[cristian]

Oh, so it did not "die"...you just parked it. And now wish to re-start it? Should be easy. People do that with LandCruisers all the time. Give it some fresh fuel, fresh battery, clean the plugs, maybe some new oil. Should start right up.

thanks pighead

 

[cristian]

Remove the plugs. Use a flashlight to look down into the cylinders. Do you see rust in there? If so then squirt a little tranny fluid in the cylinders. Let it sit for a while and then try to turn it by hand. You don't say if you can hear the starter engage. Does it engage? Is the problem the starter or is the motor frozen?

The engine is not frozen, just park and not turned it on for almost a year more

Not engage. Sounds just "click", but the battery used was not in good condition, so this may be the low battery a friend gave me on loan.

I want to see their advice before trying a new battery.

 

[lunyou]

The click sounds like a dead battery. It is likely the battery isn't even engaging the starter gearing into the flywheel.

 

[nspctr1]

remove the plugs. Use a flashlight to look down into the cylinders. Do you see rust in there? If so then squirt a little tranny fluid in the cylinders. Let it sit for a while and then try to turn it by hand. You don't say if you can hear the starter engage. Does it engage? Is the problem the starter or is the motor frozen?

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[Roboosfj40s]

x3 solenoid clicking only, not enough battery ummppf!

 

[bikersmurf]

Sounds like you need a new battery or at least another vehicle to jump start it.

If it's not frozen it should run. You may need to rebuild the carb and give it some other attention once it's running. Mine has sat a couple of times for more than a year, and only needed a jump to get it running again. When it sat for 2 years I had to replace the old battery that was in it.

 

[cristian]

Sounds like you need a new battery or at least another vehicle to jump start it.

If it's not frozen it should run. You may need to rebuild the carb and give it some other attention once it's running. Mine has sat a couple of times for more than a year, and only needed a jump to get it running again. When it sat for 2 years I had to replace the old battery that was in it.

Thanks, in fact had been rebuilt carburetor shortly before the engine was parked.

When I try again I'll let you know the results, thanks for your good advice.

 

[cristian]

Good day, this weekend for personal reasons, was little I could do in the case discussed in this issue, but despite this, I had a breakthrough. The motor runs well, remove the spark plugs again (and had taken to clean as they were in perfect condition) and the pistons look good, do not observe any signs of surface rust, my problem now is that I do not get a screw missing me the basis of the retention piece alternator and distributor, so I have to sort through my mess of things more thoroughly.

Broadly, the engine looks in good condition and that few details, but the new battery should boot without problems.

Thanks again for your good advice.

 

[cristian]

Greetings and good afternoon.
By time did not return to write about my engine 2F, so they update the situation.
I have not managed to turn it on, even if I tried.
He put a new battery a new starter, new solenoid (I have adapted, apart from the starter solenoid) oil and new spark plugs, new fuel pump but still not start turning even ... Has spark, has fresh fuel, turn this in time ... but still does not start.
This is the situation until yesterday ...

The truth? do not know what else to do to that f**k engine for starting. Until I had in mind putting a grenade and release the hood to see if this way I can get it start, (or blow up!!).

 

[John McVicker]

Ok, we understand your frustation but don't grenade it ...yet. This should be fairly straight forward.

Your english is not bad but let's try to be certain we understand :

1) When you turn the key to start does the starter actually engage the engine & actually 'turn the engine over'?? For example, when doing this does the Raditor fan move/rotate ?

2) if the answer is yes, what happens when/if you take the hose off the fuel pump & crank the engine ? If stock fuel pump...remove hose on raditor side of pump & crank the engine. What is the size/amount of fuel coming out of the hose.

Good luck & let us know.

John

 

[cristian]

Your english is not bad but let's try to be certain we understand :

jejeje thanks, my english sponsored by google translator! jeje.

1) When you turn the key to start does the starter actually engage the engine & actually 'turn the engine over'?? For example, when doing this does the Raditor fan move/rotate ?

Yes, but I think it does not turn fast enough, I have removed the spark plugs and I turned to loosen a bit, and turns very well and has compression. Put spark plugs and wires again, but I feel like not turning fast enough.

2) if the answer is yes, what happens when/if you take the hose off the fuel pump & crank the engine ? If stock fuel pump...remove hose on raditor side of pump & crank the engine. What is the size/amount of fuel coming out of the hose.

Out enough fuel.

Good luck & let us know.
John

Thanks John!

 

[cristian]

By the way, the engine has adapted an ignition distributor chevrolet and a high amperage solenoid ford (to protect the solenoid starter. It is a modification very common in Venezuela). I have to pass the key I have 13V at the solenoid but the starter solenoid only reflect 10V .. do not know why, I checked wiring, grounding and everything looks good.

 

[John McVicker]

By the way, the engine has adapted an ignition distributor chevrolet and a high amperage solenoid ford (to protect the solenoid starter. It is a modification very common in Venezuela). I have to pass the key I have 13V at the solenoid but the starter solenoid only reflect 10V .. do not know why, I checked wiring, grounding and everything looks good.

This raises another point & I can't be certain of what dist. you have. Is your dist a 'points' type ??

Regarding 10v at the starter...all connections tight & clean ?? really tight and clean including all grounds. If you truly have only 10v at the starter, that is where I would suggest you spend some time.

Can you get access to what we call 'Starter fluid' ? Comes in a can like carb cleaner. Spray it down the carb & if you have spark & the engine turns fast enough it WILL start. Might not run long, but it will start.

I am just a poor shade tree mechanic trying to give you something to work on.

Keep at it.
John