2021 LC200 HE Build Capable Comfort

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

Gartenmeister said:
Good looking truck. Just curious, if you didn't want the HE wheels and you did want side steps, why start with a HE in the first place?
Click to expand...
I do like the HE wheels and the darkened accents (aside from the mirror caps).

The key feature was the lack of a third row (I have two kids and needed the extra space for gear when traveling). I did strongly consider a 2 row LX 570 but knew that I would immediately need new wheels and would eventually have to do a AHC delete and run a standard suspension.

I also don’t like the door guards on the regular LC.


I kept it stock (stock size KO2) for about a year. With the family in the truck and their gear I started encountering departure angle issues. I also didn’t like the weight and feel of the D load KO2 in stock size. Went up to the 33 inch wranglers load range c when they came out thinking it would fix the issue with height and ride but the road noise was horrible.

Thus my investigation into alternatives. The 17 inch wheel size has so much more tire options and I am now very happy I did it. Wanted to keep a stock look. The ride quality is now superb.
 
clearmysix said:
I do like the HE wheels and the darkened accents (aside from the mirror caps).

The key feature was the lack of a third row (I have two kids and needed the extra space for gear when traveling). I did strongly consider a 2 row LX 570 but knew that I would immediately need new wheels and would eventually have to do a AHC delete and run a standard suspension.

I also don’t like the door guards on the regular LC.


I kept it stock (stock size KO2) for about a year. With the family in the truck and their gear I started encountering departure angle issues. I also didn’t like the weight and feel of the D load KO2 in stock size. Went up to the 33 inch wranglers load range c when they came out thinking it would fix the issue with height and ride but the road noise was horrible.

Thus my investigation into alternatives. The 17 inch wheel size has so much more tire options and I am now very happy I did it. Wanted to keep a stock look. The ride quality is now superb.
Click to expand...
Did you ever consider 265/70/18 size with the HE rims?
 
Madtiger said:
Did you ever consider 265/70/18 size with the HE rims?
Click to expand...
I considered all R18 sizes. There are no light weight LT tires for R18 rims.

Here is the list of Load Ranges for that tire size. SL and XL are non LT load tires. The only LT load is E which are very heavy. Missing is a Load Range C option which is what I desired for the combination of comfort and capability.

Screen Shot 2023-02-13 at 12.17.58 PM.png
 
clearmysix said:
I considered all R18 sizes. There are no light weight LT tires for R18 rims.

Here is the list of Load Ranges for that tire size. SL and XL are non LT load tires. The only LT load is E which are very heavy. Missing is a Load Range C option which is what I desired for the combination of comfort and capability.

View attachment 3247564
Click to expand...
Michelin Defender Load Range E 265/70/18. 49 lbs. Not bad. I am considering this size and tire.
 
Last edited:
Hey Clearmysix,

I am also looking for a SL or C load tire, and I thought i would try the Goodyear Territory MT as well, until i came across your thread...
How bad is the high pitched noise? Is it night and day difference compared to your C load KO2s?
I am also contemplating SL General Grabber APT or Grabber ATX..
 
MK100Series said:
Hey Clearmysix,

I am also looking for a SL or C load tire, and I thought i would try the Goodyear Territory MT as well, until i came across your thread...
How bad is the high pitched noise? Is it night and day difference compared to your C load KO2s?
I am also contemplating SL General Grabber APT or Grabber ATX..
Click to expand...

The noise is pretty bad. I didn’t want to believe the reviews but expect your cabin to be full of the noise at 65+ mph. Additionally the GY wrangler MTs were definitely not as solid in build compared to the KO2. You can watch YouTube vids on the flimsy side wall for instance. Overall it’s more of a SL tire with a mud tire noise profile.

If you are wanting to stay 18 I would go for the SLs as you are thinking and take the hit in off road durability.
 
clearmysix said:
I do like the HE wheels and the darkened accents (aside from the mirror caps).

The key feature was the lack of a third row (I have two kids and needed the extra space for gear when traveling). I did strongly consider a 2 row LX 570 but knew that I would immediately need new wheels and would eventually have to do a AHC delete and run a standard suspension.

I also don’t like the door guards on the regular LC.


I kept it stock (stock size KO2) for about a year. With the family in the truck and their gear I started encountering departure angle issues. I also didn’t like the weight and feel of the D load KO2 in stock size. Went up to the 33 inch wranglers load range c when they came out thinking it would fix the issue with height and ride but the road noise was horrible.

Thus my investigation into alternatives. The 17 inch wheel size has so much more tire options and I am now very happy I did it. Wanted to keep a stock look. The ride quality is now superb.
Click to expand...

I think you could have gotten into 17s without downsizing the brakes. Yes, not all 17s provide enough clearance, but there are many including the well known Rock Warriors.

In regards to your preconceived notions of AHC - maybe a little ironic, but it may have fit your goals to a T. The notion that it would need to be ripped out, maybe for more aggressive use?, isn't exactly right. There's many of us using it across use cases, from mild to wild, showing its bandwidth and capability. Not to take away from your build, but mentioning in case others might have that assumption in the future.
 
clearmysix said:
The noise is pretty bad. I didn’t want to believe the reviews but expect your cabin to be full of the noise at 65+ mph. Additionally the GY wrangler MTs were definitely not as solid in build compared to the KO2. You can watch YouTube vids on the flimsy side wall for instance. Overall it’s more of a SL tire with a mud tire noise profile.

If you are wanting to stay 18 I would go for the SLs as you are thinking and take the hit in off road durability.
Click to expand...
I see, thanks for the insight on the noise, i may pass on them..
 
TeCKis300 said:
I think you could have gotten into 17s without downsizing the brakes. Yes, not all 17s provide enough clearance, but there are many including the well known Rock Warriors.

In regards to your preconceived notions of AHC - maybe a little ironic, but it may have fit your goals to a T. The notion that it would need to be ripped out, maybe for more aggressive use?, isn't exactly right. There's many of us using it across use cases, from mild to wild, showing its bandwidth and capability. Not to take away from your build, but mentioning in case others might have that assumption in the future.
Click to expand...
All good points.
 
clearmysix said:
For those of you who have Pre-2016 and may want to buy 17 inch LC rims (without downsizing brakes like I did) from your local Toyota Dealer, here is the version they have in stock. I am using one as a spare. Here is the part number. 4261160641. They are 323 dollars from my local dealer. Your dealer may charge different prices so I would look around.

Here is what they look like.View attachment 3246449View attachment 3246450
Click to expand...
Does it come with the center caps? If not, do you have the part number? Thanks.
 
Proud new owner with new 17" Method wheels and 285/75R17 K02 tires. Matching spare coming after Dissent rear bumper is completed.
20240815_115007.jpg


20240712_180247 (1).jpg
 
04UZJ100 said:
How was it fitting them?
Click to expand...
They fit pretty good with the 35 offset wheels. There was some slight rubbing in front remedied by removing the mud guards and the small plastic pieces under the bumper, I'm not sure what they're called, and using heavy duty cable ties through existing holes to pull front of fender liners forward a bit.
 
Not sure "downsizing" brakes on a large heavy vehicle that carries children so you can fit a certain wheel is all that smart of an idea man...

ESPECIALLY since you plan on adding more weight, etc..

Sorry, not really, i couldnt NOT say something, as the logic here doesnt make sense

With that being said, LOOKS good
 
Boston Mangler said:
Not sure "downsizing" brakes on a large heavy vehicle that carries children so you can fit a certain wheel is all that smart of an idea man...

ESPECIALLY since you plan on adding more weight, etc..

Sorry, not really, i couldnt NOT say something, as the logic here doesnt make sense

With that being said, LOOKS good
Click to expand...
If you really believe this you should make a pinned post on mud as a public service announcement since most LC200s sold in the world have the slightly smaller calipers.
 
@clearmysix
And they still carry tons of weight and tow caravans and trailers, etc..
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

T
Lift kit install on a 2021 LC200 in Virginia (DMV)
Replies
4
Views
1K
Pulgasari
Pulgasari
N
LC200 Arctic Trucks AT35 build advice (long-term)
Replies
14
Views
1K
rlynch356
rlynch356
ronnunan
2021 LC 200 HE OME BP51 side to side measurement
2
Replies
29
Views
2K
blinkerfluid
B
amitbh234
Builds White LC200 OEM+ Build Documentation
2 3
Replies
43
Views
7K
amitbh234
amitbh234

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom