2015 Christmas Tree Cutting Patrol

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The family and I will be up tomorrow (12/5) to get our tree - hope we don't have to stick with the masses an Rampart Range, but that seems likely. Not sure what time we'll get up there, but I'll holler on the radio - has anybody set a 2M frequency?

Put me down for Sunday the 13th to patrol as well.
 
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I will be on Marc repeater as well.

I'll be up first thing but have to leave about noon.
 
Wow - I think it would have been less crowded going to Walmart for a tree! Just crazy with that number of people and no side roads open - or even room to park or turn around on Rampart.

I pulled one FJ Cruiser out on my way out. Then things got the interesting on that steep hill just south of the sledding hill at the end of the pavement. We were getting some light to moderate snow and that hill was already icy. The combination was incredibly slick. Some 4x4 were making it up, 2wd was not. Everybody was sliding down - I was sliding sideways about half the length.

I help get some folks turned around, directed some traffic. And called Sam on the radio and suggested they talk to the Forest Service to stop N bound traffic until they could get some sand on that hill. There were still dozens of vehicles up there - one good stuck or accident with somebody coming up or down that hill and alot of people could be having a long day of it up there.

But I had to go and get my daughter to work @ 3:00 in Briargate. Hope everything went well for you guys up there.
 
Luke,
I'll be there tommorrow (12/6). The Forest Service gave the information for some people that were stuck and had to leave their Vehicle. They are going to meet me at the Western in the morning.
David H.
 
This is David's wife. Any body know the status of those that went up today (12/6)? I haven't heard from David and he seems to be out of cell phone range. It is about 8:30 PM.
 
This is David's wife. Any body know the status of those that went up today (12/6)? I haven't heard from David and he seems to be out of cell phone range. It is about 8:30 PM.
Update - just heard from David. On his way home.
 
Crazy day Sunday. Lost count of all of the extractions. David Hayes and Andrew took off from the Western headed to Rainbow Falls to pull a suburban out first thing in the morning. David received a call from the FS the previous evening, and set it up for the owners to be at our meeting point Sunday morning. Going in from the highway was our best option, since 351 was still closed in with snow. David and Andrew did end up breaking the trail to Rampart with their chained up rigs later in the day, following tracks to see if there was anyone up there. Sounds like that was a heck of a fight.

The rest of us literally didn't make it 200 yards down Rampart from the sled hill before the first "customer", an F150 nosed into the side of 300. Pulled them out in short order while Tracy was running traffic control. Today seemed to be the day the adventurous people came out to play, and they opened many of the side trails. We saw tracks down 323 and went to take a look early. Ended up finding a 1978 Power Wagon on 35's buried in a curve. I winched him backwards, and broke a trail to the side where he could get turned around. Him and his girlfriend wanted to go further, but I think David Molter talked him out of that idea. After seeing us having our way with the snow, he vowed that he was getting a locker. Haha. I remembered at some point that the South team did not have a Forest Service radio, so we headed back to give them one. They were working on a recovery down 315. Tracy, Molter, and I headed up to the North end, all the while getting updates from Andrew on the Woodland Park MARC 146.820 repeater. We were planning on meeting up with them once they decided to come up to Rampart via 351. At some point on that trip, a lady in an F250 was heading towards us a little too fast, and when she tried to move over, she clipped the windrow, which bounced her back into the center of the road. I darted for the side, and ended up mired in the bank up over half my passenger side doors in snow. David rescued me from that one, at which point I received a nice butt chewing from a guy in an SUV about us not letting him through before we blocked the road.

We headed farther North, and at some point Tracy got a call on the FS radio about some problems at 325. Tracy and David turned around and headed that way, while I went to investigate a traffic jam up the way. I ended up finding a Honda Pilot a 100 yards or so into 300C that was turned sideways and sliding into the trees. I spoke with them about options, and based on how badly they were stuck, I gave them the damage disclaimer talk. There was not a single thing to hook to on that heavy little SUV, or so we thought. I put frame hooks on a hole in the rear subframe and pulled it back up the hill, everything was going great, until something slipped. I stopped pulling, an found that the frame hook had torn about a 4" gash through part of the subframe. luckily, it didn't affect anything important. A guy from the Christian Four Wheelers was there, and we got underneath the rig and found a way to wrap the lower rear control arm with a tree saver, and continued winching. That thing was way heavier than it looked, and it refused to come back up on the trail. I was pulling at such an angle to keep it off the trees that the strap was pulling against the wheel, the winch was pulling so hard, I visibly saw the rear aluminum rim flex and start to bend- I backed off immediately. The owner of the vehicle, and husband of a VERY angry wife, told us to just pull it straight back and whatever tree damage may happen, just happens. we did end up getting the wife to pull foreward under her own power and get it a little straighter on the trail. At this point Andrew and David showed up. With three vehicles now positioned at different angles, we kept pulling from different angles and making progress. When it was almost out, upon closer inspection, Andrew reached down and pulled a cover off of the rear bumper to expose a 2" receiver hitch.... I looked to the owner, and the look on my face must have said everything... He said, "I forgot that was there. Dude, you can punch me if you want." Haha. We put the strap in the receiver, and David pulled them to freedom. I watched the rear wheel as they drove away- it didn't look bent...
 
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At that point we re-arranged the groups. I headed back South. Soon after, we got a call about a vehicle stuck on 315, and headed down to take a look. David had earlier towed a dead truck all the way back into town, on caught the 315 call on the way up. He pulled a Grand Cherokee all the way off of 315 to Rampart. While he was doing that, I figured it would be a good idea to go check the infamous 315 "slide off" spot. There were tracks, but they looked old. The snow was really deep, and we were just about to forget it and head back, but at that point on the downhill winding section, we couldn't turn around, and feared we were going to have to fight our way out. Then, at the bottom, was the happiest family to ever see a group of 4x4's that I've ever seen. They were in a Dodge 2500 four door diesel mega cab. Had been there for hours. I got out and told him I figured there might be a vehicle down here, I was just hoping it was a smaller vehicle... I was about to chain up and prepare for battle, when Rodney asked that we put my deflators on his truck and see if that would get him out. I was skeptical, but wasn't looking forward to smoking my transmission trying to pull that beast. Low and behold.... that behemoth drove out of that trail on 20 pound of air on some very, very squatted tires. Remarkable experience. The guy couldn't stop talking about the lesson he had just learned about air pressure. We aired him back up and sent them on their way. They stopped at the sled hill and talked with Rick and Gretchen, gave them an earful about what happened and what it meant to them, and how grateful they were. It's nice for someone to relay to the FS that we are indeed appreciated.

We waited at the sled hill for the North team to show up, since I had the air tank, but as things were going- they had other obligations. A call came in about some stuck vehicles on 351. MAN.... I hate that drive. Gets further every year.... Turns out there was some very nice folks in a Subaru that decided to head home to Denver via 351. Thankfully, they didn't make it much further than they did. Again, no place to hook to what-so-ever- so it was a shovel and manpower extraction. With all of the FS folks, and all of us, there were people and vehicles everywhere. Rodney and I pulled up at the tail end of things just in time for the final push (literally), looked like an epic battle, and the car was free.... BUT, there was another four door Chevy truck 500 yards down the trail. I was not down the trail for that one. I saw how winded Andrew was walking back up, and he's in way better shape than I am... David Hayes went down fully chained up and ripped that truck up the hill to freedom, making him MVP of the day once again. Past 8:00 at night. That's a new one. Andrew, Rodney, and I kept the fun going and took Hotel Gulch out. The FS guys told us we were nuts. Maybe.... :D
 
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Wow - sounds like a pretty epic day up there! Still waiting to here more about how Saturday afternoon went with all those dozens of cars coming down that icy hill just south of the sledding hill.
 
Awesome report Luke. You guys earned your water bottles!:grinpimp:

Did the FS discuss trying to block any side roads for next weekend or at least putting warning signs up?
 
Not that I know of. 351 has a barricade and sign that it's closed, but someone had tossed it to the side. Andrew replaced it while he was down there. 315 has a "travel not advised" sign, but nobody seems to see it..
 
sounds fun!!
 
Got to watch (help) Luke with the Dodge pickup. I later pulled a dead F150 13 miles into Woodland Park to a repair shop. The guy offered and I accepted $50.00 for the club treasury. Later I pulled a Grand Cherokee up 315 to 300.

I did want to remind everyone that we do not solicit donations, but will accept them in the name of the club. I saw a lady offer a couple of bucks to us for pulling their car out. I was not very close when it happened, but one of our visitors (don't remember who) refused the offer. Please post up your opinions of whether we should accept donations for the club.
 
Too bad your so far away, that sounds like a blast!
 
My opinion is No. I have turned down an offer in the past. We are volunteering for Forest Service and I think it would reflect poorly on us and Forest Service.

If we are on a club run it would be a different situation and a judgement call at that time.

Your particular event was a bit extraordinary.
 
Yep. Stuff got a little out of hand yesterday. As always, I took a few pictures...

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