2013 LX with 40k or LC with 80k. Help me choose (1 Viewer)

[Madtiger]

I wonder how many so called “back of basics” people will actually buy a LC70? Rides like crap from what i read…literally kidney busting ride. No safety features. It is basically a work truck with zero comfort. It reminds me of Jeep owners begging for Jeep to build a pickup version of the Wrangler……….and when Jeep builds it, it may go down as the modern version of Pontiac Aztec!

 

[tincan45]

Quick update - I picked up the 2013 LX yesterday. The clock rolled over 40K on my way back home - it looks practically brand new. In the end, getting an LX with 40K less miles than a comparable LC for the same price was just too good to pass up.

I appreciate everyone's feedback.

Enjoy it! Obviously biased here, but the 2013-2015 LX has a lot more of the LC look and feel than the 2016+. With 40K on the clock you basically have a new car. Welcome to the sickness.

 

[Tex68w]

I did a very thorough test drive of a HZJ75 Troopy a few years back. I was certain it was the next off-road rig for me and I had planned to traverse the the continental U.S. with it for years to come. After that long afternoon/evening running it around city streets, on the interstate, in stop-n-go rush hour traffic and on gravel country back roads, I realized that it wasn't for me. I could probably justify one from a collectors standpoint but there's no way I'd choose it for my main adventure rig. Three words summarize the 70 Series trucks for me, rough, slow, noisy, and those aren't descriptors that I want to take along as I spend many hours in the seat traveling the back roads of America lol. They are rugged and bullet proof for the most part and I think that's appealing to most but it's only part of the equation.

 

[SharpeCat]

I wonder how many so called “back of basics” people will actually buy a LC70? Rides like crap from what i read…literally kidney busting ride. No safety features. It is basically a work truck with zero comfort. It reminds me of Jeep owners begging for Jeep to build a pickup version of the Wrangler……….and when Jeep builds it, it may go down as the modern version of Pontiac Aztec!

I ask you to stop messaging so you decide to take a cheap shot at me here?

Please, I have my preferences just as you have yours. No need to lose your manners over it.

Edit: Can no longer see what madtiger says nor do i care.

"Very few people "need" to replace the factory shocks on these trucks before 100K miles, hell even 200K miles for some, most "choose" to do so and it's usually because they lift them."

Very true, in fact I don't know anyone who keeps factory shocks that long, so as far as 200s shocks lifespan there isn't a lot of data. Because of that you have to base it off of average lifespan of aftermarket/common choices (like OME) that LC owners tend to go with; That is if you are using this forum as a base for comparison between LC suspension and LX suspension, while using the 200s on here as examples (i think all of them are aftermarket). When i said multiple replacements before major AHC components, that is based off the fact that most shocks are rated at 50-100k, and that examples of AHC major maintenance before 200k are rare (on the grand scheme of things). Keep in mind mudders are more handy than your average crowd, so you won't find a new post every time someone struggles with replacing shocks. Just because not a lot of posts are made regarding shock replacement, does not mean that there aren't a lot of them being replaced.

I always tell people that just because i didn't make a tweet about it, does not mean that i did not eat my eggs and sausages this morning. I only make a tweet when i'm eating something that hasn't already been tweeted a bazillion times. AHC is the exotic tweet/post if you catch my drift.

 

[Madtiger]

I like LC200 just the way it is. My kidnets are used to the comfort.

 

[1world1love]

Quick update - I picked up the 2013 LX yesterday. The clock rolled over 40K on my way back home - it looks practically brand new. In the end, getting an LX with 40K less miles than a comparable LC for the same price was just too good to pass up.

I appreciate everyone's feedback.

Congrats man. That is one of the best year models of either badge and will be a classic when it is all said and done, and you can’t beat the mileage. I bought mine with 106k and it was like new. I have added a mod or two and 30k+ miles and it still drives like new. I am pretty tough on it and it always surprises me how willingly it just carries on.

Post up in the official LX thread.

 

[TeCKis300]

Quick update - I picked up the 2013 LX yesterday. The clock rolled over 40K on my way back home - it looks practically brand new. In the end, getting an LX with 40K less miles than a comparable LC for the same price was just too good to pass up.

I appreciate everyone's feedback.

Congrats on the new rig. 40k is a baby! And probably some of the best value for money spent in any vehicle.

Enjoy it as Lexus intended. She's already got huge capability box stock! Even beyond what is advertised or what some might presume or disparage it to be.

- AHC payload is robust. Many of us have taken it to 1800lbs box stock without it flinching, while still delivering on point damping and performance. It can be taken further still with spring augmentation via spacers or airbags while still maintaining great damping.

- If you're ever looking to get into larger lifts for approach, clearance, and departure - you can easily do a 1.75" sensor lift, which adds to AHC-High 2.3" lift on the demand, putting you at 4"+ total lifts.

- Pair that with aggressive large tires, which are more easily done on the LX, gets you into 6"+ total lifts. While maintaining a buttery ride, excellent body control, and ease of ingress/egress.

Here's a great thread if you're looking for more info about modding the suspension system

LX570 AHC height modifications (lift it!)

Ive been searching around and have read mention of people adjusting the AHC to set the truck height higher but I haven't seen any tutorial about it. I looked under the truck at the sensors and it looks like there is room for adjustment. I am really just hoping to raise the front end to remove...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[studawg]

It came on all LC’s and LX’s from 2003-2007. Its old tech and very reliable.

This is incorrect. It was only an option on LCs in 2006-2007.

 

[tacoduck]

This is incorrect. It was only an option on LCs in 2006-2007.

I’m going from memory but your are most likely right. It was an option on lc from 06-07, but all NA lc’s came with it standard during that time. The ox’s have had it standard since 98.

 

[studawg]

I’m going from memory but your are most likely right. It was an option on lc from 06-07, but all NA lc’s came with it standard during that time. The ox’s have had it standard since 98.

? I am going from memory and Im definitely right It was not available on Land Cruisers in North America until 2006 and then it was only an option for 06-07, and hasn't been available on a North American LC since.

 

[TeCKis300]

I wouldn't call AHC old tech. Yes, the hydropneumatic part has been around since the 1950s in Citrogens. But the implementation couldn't be more different and the 200-series variant has taken it farther still. With the AHC on the cruisers having continuous computer controlled damping with skyhook algorithms in the 100-series, upgraded to non-linear H control in the 200-series. Kinetic dynamic cross linking for sway resistance while enabling front to rear axle warp.

I'd argue it's as bleeding edge as any. Simpler versions have been banned in World Rally Cars and found on supercars like the Mclaren 720s.

The 200-series implementation bests the 100-series in several areas. Much more robust payload capacity (~1800 lbs to ~1200 lbs respectively). Has dual spring rates in the front for additional dive and cornering control. Better sway resistance. Improved robustness and durability.

 

[slipkid13]

I wonder how many so called “back of basics” people will actually buy a LC70? Rides like crap from what i read…literally kidney busting ride. No safety features. It is basically a work truck with zero comfort. It reminds me of Jeep owners begging for Jeep to build a pickup version of the Wrangler……….and when Jeep builds it, it may go down as the modern version of Pontiac Aztec!

I spent a good amount of time in an LC70 while hunting in Nambia. You are spot on, it is a kidney buster for sure. It is a work truck and has very little comfort/safety features. It's great for what it is designed for, but I am sure that most folks would not to use it as a daily driver. Plus, it's expensive AF. I almost fell over when my guide told me what he paid for it. Imagine the added cost to bring it to the US. Now, you do get you what you pay for. He had a 30 y/o HiLux on the original engines/trans (no rebuilds) with something like 350K KMs 100% of those KMs off road as a hunting truck (with a winch in rear hauling 500LB game animals)