2009 LC Nav Delete (Harness) (5 Viewers)

[alexvallorosi]

A long while back, I tore the nav system out of my 2009 cruiser. Specifically because it was being used for things where I needed to mount tablets/screens where the nav would go.
I haven't missed it, except for the airbags and the AC which is pretty tough to live without in the heat of the summer in 29 Palms, CA.

I did some research and came upon @TXSunDevil and @alta 's Nav delete threads - so I want to give them major credit for figuring out the hard part here and giving me the confidence to attempt this mod. My goal here is to build a plug-and-play harness - not to tap into or re-pin any existing wiring harness connectors. It seems mostly pretty doable, with the biggest lift being complete replication of the E36 connector, but with one tap on the new harness and one pin relocation.

The first thing I did was tear out what was left of the dashboard and labeled plugs so I know what I'm dealing with:

I am more of a visual person, so this definitely helped, but I also translated TXSunDevil's into a crude visual wiring diagram. I need some help to identify some of the missing components to make a complete harness. If anybody has any input, that would be greatly appreciated. See below.

I found most of these parts on a website called CarMarka at a reasonable price (albeit overseas so we will see what the international freight costs look like). And most, but not all, from the local Toyota dealer at a significant markup. I think if I can properly identify and associate these connectors and pins with Mouser components, this should bring the price of a custom harness down significantly.

 

[TXSunDevil]

I am looking forward to your progress, @jerryb and a few others went down the rabbit hole at Mouser looking for connector pins.

 

[sdnative]

I have purchased connectors and seals for Toyota terminals here in the past. Maybe see if they have what you need?

Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

www.bmotorsports.com

 

[alexvallorosi]

I am looking forward to your progress, @jerryb and a few others went down the rabbit hole at Mouser looking for connector pins.

Stay tuned! Will look at jerryb's posts in the threads I think I've seen some listing Mouser components

I have purchased connectors and seals for Toyota terminals here in the past. Maybe see if they have what you need?

Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

www.bmotorsports.com

Thanks! I'll take a look here as well

 

[jerryb]

what happens is you find the females. Usually cheap, but still sometimes hard to find. I did buy some of those females to try to match up with the stock females. I was successful in one and failed in another one. I also didn't have a 200 to go by so that makes is harder.
When you go looking for matching males, that's where the work is. They won't be available usually because they come with the actual components or attached at the circuit board level. In the case of the 100, I found 2 of 3 and never found the third I needed. In that instance I made an adapter with one male and one female where I cut the guide pins and slid it into a female, glued, silicone and shrink wrapped it. (at great expense) Sometimes the males come with 90 degree pins, you have to look at each pdf of the connector where you can find them.
Then it's just finding correct pins based on wire insulation thickness and gauge. In past threads of mine I talk about specific wire and terminal sizes, where to order etc. I used 22 gauge everything in the nav delete. Delcity is where I ordered crosslink. It was the best place I found back then. IF you can find repair OEM wire numbers in the book and you look on ebay, there are people that bulk make the popular ones. Doesn't work on 100 behind the dash stuff but it's wrorth looking.
Good luck to you.

 

[alexvallorosi]

what happens is you find the females. Usually cheap, but still sometimes hard to find. I did buy some of those females to try to match up with the stock females. I was successful in one and failed in another one. I also didn't have a 200 to go by so that makes is harder.
When you go looking for matching males, that's where the work is. They won't be available usually because they come with the actual components or attached at the circuit board level. In the case of the 100, I found 2 of 3 and never found the third I needed. In that instance I made an adapter with one male and one female where I cut the guide pins and slid it into a female, glued, silicone and shrink wrapped it. (at great expense) Sometimes the males come with 90 degree pins, you have to look at each pdf of the connector where you can find them.
Then it's just finding correct pins based on wire insulation thickness and gauge. In past threads of mine I talk about specific wire and terminal sizes, where to order etc. I used 22 gauge everything in the nav delete. Delcity is where I ordered crosslink. It was the best place I found back then. IF you can find repair OEM wire numbers in the book and you look on ebay, there are people that bulk make the popular ones. Doesn't work on 100 behind the dash stuff but it's wrorth looking.
Good luck to you.

Yeah I'm starting to realize why a harness hasn't been done yet. Bummer. It looks like the connectors are almost certainly Yazaki 64 or 040 series but after extensively going through their catalog, I realized that these are just custom connectors made for Toyota. The next best option is probably to find Chinese knock-off connectors for the male mates, although I doubt they will have everything. Here are a couple:

F10 Male/Female
F31 Male/Female

I doubt that a custom harness would be worth pursuing at this point.

 

[alexvallorosi]

I purchased the following parts from Toyota Parts Deal to start gathering requisite components:
90980-12552
90980-11911
55900-60F11
82998-12690
82998-12740
82998-12870

I wasn't able to find the clock (83910-60190) although in @alta thread he mentions part number 83910-60200 which looks more correct based on what I have already in my Land Cruiser. And I was able to find a few sources for this online.

 

[alexvallorosi]

Alright so I abandoned the concept of the wiring harness (for the time being), but I was able to successfully wire up the AC circuit.

I started by building out the F10 connector. If I had to do it again I would probably just wait until after everything was soldered to insert the pins.
Below, is mostly everything hooked up. I ran and spliced everything according to the diagram I showed and thanks to @TXSunDevil for his pinout. There was only one thing - the green and white wires on the F28 connectors appeared to be in the opposite position on my harness. I didn't sweat it too much and just hooked them up in the same way that the pinout diagram described, because after all they were just for illumination. But regardless, everything worked fine anyway! Everything else was according to the diagram.

I used those shrink/melt connector splice things. Probably could have soldered but these seemed okay. At the end I loomed everything with braided loom.
We had one little oopsie with the only tap on #5 on the E36 AC Amplifier (see below). It was definitely a challenge to make the tap fit and sit correctly. I let the lighter sit on it a little long and caused a little bit of a fire.

Here it is, in place of the previous radio and CD changer. I pulled the radio plugs through to the top where they will ultimately sit. I still do not have a clock as I cannot source the part number. Still looking around as that is a pretty serious concern with no airbags.

Now I just need a radio! Any recommendations? I heard there are some that will plug into the factory harness. I am thrilled with the sound as it stands so I am not planning to make any modifications/additions to speakers/amp/etc.

 

[TXSunDevil]

I have a JVC IIRC, it has the features I need. I was able to use a METRA harness to go right into my factory wiring. Crutchfield is not showing one for the 2009, you might have to do a little searching, but I would think there would be a harness for the audio. Does your AC work now?

 

[alexvallorosi]

I have a JVC IIRC, it has the features I need. I was able to use a METRA harness to go right into my factory wiring. Crutchfield is not showing one for the 2009, you might have to do a little searching, but I would think there would be a harness for the audio. Does your AC work now?

That is promising! Thank you. Yes, the AC works great. All four zones are functional and it takes input on temperature adjustments from the buttons on the vents on the driver and passenger side.

 

[TXSunDevil]

Hallelujah, the Mojave is not a place to be without AC. Have you tried partsouq for the clock for your vehicle?

 

[alexvallorosi]

Hallelujah, the Mojave is not a place to be without AC. Have you tried partsouq for the clock for your vehicle?

yes indeed! I have looked at partsouq. they show the part 83910-60190 out of stock along with other parts retailers including Toyota dealers. The part that I see available from Toyota is 83910-60290, which I would assume is the subsequent replacement part, but I don’t know how to confirm that.

 

[TXSunDevil]

Hmm, here is a photo I found of that one, https://rrr.lt/en/used-part/ipj9665...land-cruiser-j200-screen-display-small-screen

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