RL4X4- What you said only the opposite. Couldn't disagree more.
200 over a 100?
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Well said, Woody. Also, with the thicker pillars come MUCH improved rollover safety/roof strength than the issues the 100 had.
Couldn't disagree more on this end either. I've had a rash of different cruiser products. 98lx, 07AHClc, 07lc, 10lx, 11+lc two 97lx trucks. Obviously I'm a Toyota man. Before the cruiser products I drove an 88 4runner followed by a 90. I loved everything about the 07 cruiser with height control and the awesome steering you mentioned except for the towing ability and horsepower. I'm not into the harsh spring ride. I like the way that the hydraulic assisted cruiser products perform on and off road. My first 200 the 10 lx had too much of the hydraulics. It had KDSS and AHC. The new 200 LC has KDSS but I can change the springs and shocks easily to accommodate the needs I have without totally spoiling the on road ride. The KDSS has similar ride characteristics to the 100 with AHC but accomplishes it in a way that's more friendly to changing coils and shocks. I have a dislocated tail bone that will never heal so ride has to be cush for my taste. Even if I didn't I prefer the on and off road capability of either a 100 with AHC or a 200 with KDSS. My 200 gets the same mileage as my old 100 with amazing performance. I think it's the best automotive choice for my needs bar none. The seat is much better, the interior room is much better, the drivability is far superior, the safety is much better, the looks are not as good (80 fan), the windshield costs tooooo much, get rid of all third seats and you'll enjoy any of them better, steering and performance rival any car of any class made. My wife has the 10 platinum Sequioa. It has much better suburban character, has many creative charging points, cup holders and well engineered seating for carpooling but it doesn't drive like a cruiser. It's not at all the refined multicapable automotive hobby car that the cruiser definitely still is. See ballsbygm's photos in the 200 section and you'll see how they can be like an 80. The slab sides are functional built in fender flares. They are ugly but functional. Hope this helped. Glad to have MUD to enjoy them more! Geologic
Just stepped outside to take my garbage out, and there she was!
Get a 200.[/QUOTE
so true, it puts a smile on my face everytime I look outfront
I"ve owned 2 100's and now have a 200 series, I loved the 100 and think it looks better, but I disagree with everything you said here, no offense, but the 200 is just way nicer than the 100, and stock vs stock the 200 will win, just that simple
With a 9 cross member steel frame (the 200 has 10), I would not say the 100 is really less safe than a 200. I had a car hit me in the bumper/trailer hitch doing about 45 mph while I was sitting still and their car exploded. My stock bumper was disfigured, big deal. I suffered no physical issues myself. I drove away, the woman in the car went away on a stretcher in a neck brace and immobilized - her car was scraped onto a flat bed and taken to a yard somewhere.
That said, I can also say that the 100 has plenty of power for the average guy, and no issues with torque off road. When I moved cross-country, I had the whole inside loaded to the roof, then had 4 large storage bins full on the roof rack ratcheted down, and a 4 wheel U-Haul full with a motorcycle in the center. Hauled it all over the Appalachian mountains with no issues.
Off road goodies- plenty. The market isn't like yesteryear when I was crying in my soup about why nobody had anything for the 100. Now there is a lot of good stuff out there to hook you up. Heavier duty suspension parts, dual battery systems, bumpers, armor for the belly, ARBs can be fitted front and rear etc... 35" tires and lower gearing is also an option.
Two things keep me from a 200- First, it's a lot of money and I don't need that kind of payment. Second, I can do anything with a 100 that I could with a 200. The crawl thing doesn't impress me that much you can get by without it and good driving.
If you get a 100, I wouldn't go older than a 2003 and my personal opinion, no newer than a 2005. Those years are all basically about the same. They started changing things again in 06... Also, a side note the 2004 year was the last year that ARACO made the Land Cruiser for Toyota.
That said, I can also say that the 100 has plenty of power for the average guy, and no issues with torque off road. When I moved cross-country, I had the whole inside loaded to the roof, then had 4 large storage bins full on the roof rack ratcheted down, and a 4 wheel U-Haul full with a motorcycle in the center. Hauled it all over the Appalachian mountains with no issues.
Off road goodies- plenty. The market isn't like yesteryear when I was crying in my soup about why nobody had anything for the 100. Now there is a lot of good stuff out there to hook you up. Heavier duty suspension parts, dual battery systems, bumpers, armor for the belly, ARBs can be fitted front and rear etc... 35" tires and lower gearing is also an option.
Two things keep me from a 200- First, it's a lot of money and I don't need that kind of payment. Second, I can do anything with a 100 that I could with a 200. The crawl thing doesn't impress me that much you can get by without it and good driving.
If you get a 100, I wouldn't go older than a 2003 and my personal opinion, no newer than a 2005. Those years are all basically about the same. They started changing things again in 06... Also, a side note the 2004 year was the last year that ARACO made the Land Cruiser for Toyota.
This is false. ARACO's manufacturing and assembly portions of their business were merged with Toyota Auto Body. The LC continued to be manufactured at the same plant by the same group of employees who formerly worked at ARACO. They just merely began working for a different company by name.
Around 2007, Toyota took over some manufacturing and assembly from TAB mainly to meet mounting demand for the platform. The Tahara plant began LC production that year for certain markets... The LX570 continued to be made only at Yoshiwara by TAB.
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This is false. ARACO's manufacturing and assembly portions of their business were merged with Toyota Auto Body. The LC continued to be manufactured at the same plant by the same group of employees who formerly worked at ARACO. They just merely began working for a different company by name.
Around 2007, Toyota took over some manufacturing and assembly from TAB mainly to meet mounting demand for the platform. The Tahara plant began LC production that year for certain markets... The LX570 continued to be made only at Yoshiwara by TAB.
And now, the 2013 Land Cruisers are manufactured in Toyota City, Aichi Prefecture, Japan:
And now, the 2013 Land Cruisers are manufactured in Toyota City, Aichi Prefecture, Japan:
Or, Yoshiwara plant (A11) TAB.
Or, Yoshiwara plant (A11) TAB.
Beno, what parts are from the U.S.A in the transmission? AISIN has a NC facility, I know that.
The 100 and 4th gen have Japan sourced parts for everything mechanical, I believe.
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I don't have the content label for my '13 any more, but I would swear it stated 100% Japan (or at least 0% US) sourcing. The 11th digit of my VIN is a 4, but I do not know which plant that is. Beno?
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I can one up you, I get to go in the garage and see a 97 80, a 2003 100, and I just added at 2011 LX 570!!
Unfortunately I only get to keep two at my house at a time, the other has to stay with my parents. Even though we have a 3 car garage, my wife insists on parking inside!!
4 - Yoshiwara Plant, Toyota Auto Body
5- Tahara Plant
So your rig is made at the Yoshiwara Plant!
Credit goes to Beno ^^
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I've got an 60, an 80, and a Sequoia, so I cannot compare the 100/200. However, there becomes a point at which a vehicle is just TOO BIG for the trails, and I think the 200 may have crossed the line.
I would get a nice 100, put a EMS turbo in it for the power you want, mod the hell out of it and use it with a clear conscience.
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned forced induction to put the power on more equal footing between the two.
I've got an 60, an 80, and a Sequoia, so I cannot compare the 100/200. However, there becomes a point at which a vehicle is just TOO BIG for the trails, and I think the 200 may have crossed the line.
I would get a nice 100, put a EMS turbo in it for the power you want, mod the hell out of it and use it with a clear conscience.
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned forced induction to put the power on more equal footing between the two.
the 100 and 200 are almost the exact same size, less than 1 percent difference in the overall size, just saying
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the 100 and 200 are almost the exact same size, less than 1 percent difference in the overall size, just saying
No kidding? What's the width/length difference? Height is obviously variable! Where does all the extra room people are talking about come from?
2008 200-series:
Length: 194.9
Width: 77.6
Height: 74
2007 100-series:
Length: 192.5
Width: 76.4
Height: 73.2
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WOW!!
I didn't realize my truck was so huge!
your truck is massive
I redid my math, just a hair over 1 percent bigger
