I have a hypothetical question for some people with more technical knowledge of this series than me. Here goes, 2016 lc 200 remove front drive shaft, flat tow behind a motor home with all 4 wheels down and transmission in park with steering wheel unlocked. Shouldn’t the AWD mode on the t case allow the rear wheels to spin and front driveshaft output to spin with transmission in park? If so, would this allow the tcase to be oiled properly? If this worked would the vehicle then be able to put into 2HI and driven around without a front shaft?
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Towing with transmission in park is a bad idea anyway. Even if transmission is in neutral it is a bad idea. Because the engine is not running there is no cooling to the transmission, so you likely damage it. It is a very expensive part to replace.
T-case and diffs are not actively cooled so they don't care.
Why do you want to do this? Can't you just rent a U-haul platform and tow it?
These trucks are permanent 4WD. There is no way to "put it into 2HI". Mechanically you could remove the front shaft and have a RWD truck, but the electronics might not like it. But why did you buy a 200 if you really want a 4R, Taco or Tundra?
Finally, even if this would be possible a 200 is not the vehicle to tow behind a motor home unless your motor home is built on a semi tractor and your family owns an oil refinery. People do things the other way around and use the 200 to tow their home.
T-case and diffs are not actively cooled so they don't care.
Why do you want to do this? Can't you just rent a U-haul platform and tow it?
These trucks are permanent 4WD. There is no way to "put it into 2HI". Mechanically you could remove the front shaft and have a RWD truck, but the electronics might not like it. But why did you buy a 200 if you really want a 4R, Taco or Tundra?
Finally, even if this would be possible a 200 is not the vehicle to tow behind a motor home unless your motor home is built on a semi tractor and your family owns an oil refinery. People do things the other way around and use the 200 to tow their home.
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Let me just ask the first part of this question another way. If you take the front driveshaft out of this vehicle and have the vehicle in park will the tcase allow you to push it around a parking lot like a vehicle in neutral?
In theory, yeah. Then you could lock the center diff and drive in 2WD. Around a parking lot? Should be ok. Would I tow it this way? No way. You're asking a lot of that center diff to absorb that, and I doubt it's designed for that.
BTW removing/installing the front driveshaft would be quite a project, especially in a parking lot without any sort of lift. That job would really suck.
BTW removing/installing the front driveshaft would be quite a project, especially in a parking lot without any sort of lift. That job would really suck.
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I’ve never had a awd tcase opened up to know exactly how the unlocked function works. I was thinking about pulling the shaft on a lift, towing and and then driving with the case locked and coming back home and reinstalling the shaft. In theory it sounds like a bad idea,my mind thinks of a open differential over spinning spider gears. Definitely wasn’t designed to do it, but if it was all roller or needle bearings and splashed oil it may be safe….
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You have a torsen (limited slip) center diff that would nuke itself before you hit 15mph if you did what you propose.
You’d really need to remove both driveshafts to avoid harm to the drivetrain.
Yes you could push it around a parking lot at low speeds.. but as those speeds increase the stresses on the center diff increase dramatically.
You’d really need to remove both driveshafts to avoid harm to the drivetrain.
Yes you could push it around a parking lot at low speeds.. but as those speeds increase the stresses on the center diff increase dramatically.
There is a way to flat tow the 200-series by putting the transfer case in neutral. It has been done. I don't recall the steps to put it in neutral at the moment and I have to step out, but hopefully others can chime in.
FLAT TOW A 200??? ARE YOU CRAZY??? I AM!
That sounds like a very feasible explanation... @4gotalot did you do anything different? Thank you @RyanR for looking into this today! I am really bummed because I just bought this coach and I was so excited to take the LX with us. The only car I own that will be able to flat tow is my 1996...
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eThere is a way to flat tow the 200-series by putting the transfer case in neutral. It has been done. I don't recall the steps to put it in neutral at the moment and I have to step out, but hopefully others can chime in.
FLAT TOW A 200??? ARE YOU CRAZY??? I AM!
That sounds like a very feasible explanation... @4gotalot did you do anything different? Thank you @RyanR for looking into this today! I am really bummed because I just bought this coach and I was so excited to take the LX with us. The only car I own that will be able to flat tow is my 1996...
That procedure doesn’t appear to have worked for anything later than about a 13 model.There is a way to flat tow the 200-series by putting the transfer case in neutral. It has been done. I don't recall the steps to put it in neutral at the moment and I have to step out, but hopefully others can chime in.
FLAT TOW A 200??? ARE YOU CRAZY??? I AM!
That sounds like a very feasible explanation... @4gotalot did you do anything different? Thank you @RyanR for looking into this today! I am really bummed because I just bought this coach and I was so excited to take the LX with us. The only car I own that will be able to flat tow is my 1996...
You can place the transmission into tow mode electronically, I have done this by referring to the owners manual. There are 10 steps to neutralise the centre diff, there will be no forward or reverse gears, no park, completely neutralised without removing drive shafts. It is on pages 182 and 183 on Landcruiser owners manual, 2008, VDJ 200R.There is a way to flat tow the 200-series by putting the transfer case in neutral. It has been done. I don't recall the steps to put it in neutral at the moment and I have to step out, but hopefully others can chime in.
FLAT TOW A 200??? ARE YOU CRAZY??? I AM!
That sounds like a very feasible explanation... @4gotalot did you do anything different? Thank you @RyanR for looking into this today! I am really bummed because I just bought this coach and I was so excited to take the LX with us. The only car I own that will be able to flat tow is my 1996...
