1997 FJ80 Transmission Hard Shift from 1st to 2nd (1 Viewer)

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Now you are ready to flush the transmission. This takes about 10 minutes.

Prefill the transmission with one (1) quart less than you drained out. I use a short funnel and return the old fluid to the empty ATF quart bottles. This way I keep track of how much fluid (old vs. new) is where. Another poke-yoke to the rescue.

You are now going to start the engine, or your helper is, and the transmission pump will push fluid out of the cooler lines, through the cooler and into the old fluid container you have placed on the ground. If you followed my recommendations, and used the 34-inch long tubing, the container will be on the ground where you can see it while you're filling the transmission through the dipstick tube. This is poke-yoke number 3.

Pro tip, if you are using a helper, don't stand in front of the bumper. No poke-yoke needed; this is a self correcting problem.

Watching the fluid fill the container on the ground, pour in as much fluid as the pump pushes out. In my experience, the pump flows about as fast as a bottle drains into the funnel; maybe a tad slower.

While the old fluid is flowing out, have your helper, parking brake engaged and foot (or feet) on the brake, run through the gears one at a time, at about a 2-count: P to R, count 1, 2; R to N, count 1, 2, and so on until you have gone down and back up to park. You can do this as many times as you have room in the graduated container.

I stop at three quarts, but you can go all the way to a gallon, if you're bold. Once you fill the container, stop the engine and dispose of the old ATF any way you choose. I use the empty bottles.
 
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Keep doing this until you have emptied ten (10) new quarts into the transmission.

Keep in mind that although you haven't yet used all the new fluid, the system still has enough fluid in it to operate safely. Well, parked anyway.

Once you're down to ten (1) new quarts in the transmission, slowly add the 11th quart while watching the graduated container. Try your best not to get ahead of it. The specifications say the transmission system holds 11.5 quarts (US) empty. Yours will not be empty at any time, but it won't be full either, because you're draining the system and not the transmission case.

Once you have eleven (11) quarts in the box, you can:
1. turn off the engine,
2. remove the plastic drain tube,
3. reinstall the outlet hose and clamp., and
4. reinstall the grill and clean up after yourself.

I suggest doing this because you need to wait for the fluid to settle in the system to get an accurate measure of the level on the dipstick, and you might as well use the time to your benefit.

After you've cleaned up, stick the dipstick back in the fill tube and see how much you lack. The engine will be at operating temperature by now, so you need to have your assistant start the engine and run through the gears, slowly, one last time. Check the fluid level:
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Add whatever is needed. Put away your funnel (kerosene is the recommended ATF cleaning fluid), box up your old fluid and have a beer. Or two, I don't judge.

Save any fluid you have left over; it's power steering fluid too.

This entire process, on the day you flush and refill the transmission, should take about an hour. You can go slower if you want to.
 
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my 97 had hard shifting from 1st to 2nd when I first brought it home, ended up being 6 quarts low. Amsoil ATF is fantastic stuff by the way
 
Keep doing this until you have emptied ten (10) new quarts into the transmission.

Keep in mind that although you haven't yet used all the new fluid, the system still has enough fluid in it to operate safely. Well, parked anyway.

Once you're down to ten (1) new quarts in the transmission, slowly add the 11th quart while watching the graduated container. Try your best not to get ahead of it. The specifications say the transmission system holds 11.5 quarts (US) empty. Yours will not be empty at any time, but it won't be full either, because you're draining the system and not the transmission case.

Once you have eleven (11) quarts in the box, you can:
1. turn off the engine,
2. remove the plastic drain tube,
3. reinstall the outlet hose and clamp., and
4. reinstall the grill and clean up after yourself.

I suggest doing this because you need to wait for the fluid to settle in the system to get an accurate measure of the level on the dipstick, and you might as well use the time to your benefit.

After you've cleaned up, stick the dipstick back in the fill tube and see how much you lack. The engine will be at operating temperature by now, so you need to have your assistant start the engine and run through the gears, slowly, one last time. Check the fluid level:
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Add whatever is needed. Put away your funnel (kerosene is the recommended ATF cleaning fluid), box up your old fluid and have a beer. Or two, I don't judge.

Save any fluid you have left over; it's power steering fluid too.

This entire process, on the day you flush and refill the transmission, should take about an hour. You can go slower if you want to.
Thank you so so so much! this is the detail level that I needed! I can't wait to do this and fingers crossed the shifting issues will go away. I truly appreciate you taking the time to write this up. You are a stellar example of the community that holds us all together!
 
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I hope it helps. I did this to my son's 2000 LX470 when it started slipping and I think it postponed the inevitable demise for at lest six months. That transmission's clutches and steels were almost completely gone when it finally stopped working completely. I then did the same to my other son's 1995 80 and it improved the operation dramatically (both A343F). It went from slipping predictably in 1st and 2nd to barely slipping at all, and then only from 1st to 2nd. It needs new clutches for sure, but it's absolutely drivable now. I'm the only one who drives it that can tell it isn't 100%.

I'm not saying it'll fix everything, but it did noticeably help mine.
 
Have seen some people put the cruise cable where the kick down cable goes on throttle body, will give very hard shifts. Make sure all the cables are in the correct place and routed correctly.
 
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