Builds 1994 FZJ80 5.3l and 4L60e swap

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How did you source your engine and trans? Mind if I ask how much you paid for the two?

IIRC, you have to use the toyota sensors to send the proper signals to retain the factory gauges. Is this correct?

How do you plan to route the exhaust?
 
I did an LS1 and 4L60E swap in my 40 about7 years ago. The electric fan is necessary, the aluminum block runs much hotter than the iron block and you won't get the airflow. I replaced the radiator with a custom 4 core aluminum radiator. I then ran the fan on the thermo (set at 15 degrees below normal) and ran a switch so I could override it.

When I did mine I think it was the first ever done. I will say that it was cool and powerful but it was no longer a Land Cruiser to me. IMHO. Wish I had never done it.

My next project is to put a Supra 2JZ motor in a 40. Both are I6 motors so it'll bolt right up right? HAHAHA
 
Encase your curious what a set looks like.
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How did you source your engine and trans? Mind if I ask how much you paid for the two?

IIRC, you have to use the toyota sensors to send the proper signals to retain the factory gauges. Is this correct?

How do you plan to route the exhaust?

i sourced my engine and trans from bow auto parts in new hamsphire. i will indeed adapt the stock toyota oil pressure and water temp sensors. fuel stays the same and volts needs no mods. the exhaust will mimic a stock silverado with the cats on each side and a Y pipe that will allow a connection to a muffler in the stock location. i don't like loud engines so it will be something quiet.
 
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Did you have a set of hoses combined? who did the work? I wonder if they can do another set...

I had a company called Austin Rebuilders build these houses. They need the hoses from the toyota and the chevy to build the hoses. Make sure they put in the low side and high side connectors. I also bought a rebuilt compressor and a short dryer from them.
 
Do you need anything fancy as far as fuel pumps are concerned with that motor? I am thinking of this same swap for my 55.
 
Do you need anything fancy as far as fuel pumps are concerned with that motor? I am thinking of this same swap for my 55.

you need something along the lines of a Walbro GL392 or retrofit a factory gm pump. You also have to bypass the toyota relay because it's a two stage design with a low voltage and high voltage arrangement based on throttle position.
 
Watchin the swap now. Thanks for the link, and LMK if you need anything else.

Thank you so VERY much! Having the correct EWD info really helps. I just went out and identified the body harness connectors so now I am cooking with fire!

Next stop - the interface harness. FZJ80 harness connectors on the body harness side, and the GM weatherpack connectors on the other and GM engine trans will marry up to the toyota dash gauges.:)
 
Great project... this is why I wander away from the 40 section... to find awesome threads like this! Nice work!
 
Subscribed. I have the same green TLC that needs this same engine. The wiring is the daunting part for me so I will be anxiously watching your harness and dash interface work. How much of the GM harness did you start out with? When running the Toyota oil pressure gauges and temp sensors will you have to run them piggy-back to the GM so the GM ECM will get it's required info with split signals from a single sending unit or will you have to tap new spots for the Toyota sending units?
 
The harness for the vortec engine is complete save for a few wires that are not needed. I am modifying it myself for the integration process. The GM harness is easily made to work as a stand-alone harness with some pretty easy mods. I had the GM ECU reprogrammed to remove the VATS (security) and to adjust for tire size and gear ratio. I also had a performance tune installed. The GM emissions will remain since this swap is going to be compliant.

The toyota oil pressure and water temp will function like stock. The vortec engine has an available threaded hole in the passenger side cylinder head where I will pull the water temp signal with a toyota sensor, and the stock toyota oil pressure sender will go into a port that has to be tapped in the vortec oil pan. Volts and fuel level require no mods. The speedometer gets it's signal from the sensor on the transfer case and will require no mods.

Pretty much all of the interface with occur at the IH1, IH2 and IH3 connectors that are located behind the glove box. These connectors are part of the engine harness and the location behind the glove box is where the toyota engine harness connects with the toyota body harness. I will make the integration there with the custom interface harness. I believe (just as toojayzee) that using an interface wiring harness will make it much easier to diagnose any issues that may come up and it will make it possible to build additional harnesses for others who want to make this swap.
 
The harness for the vortec engine is complete save for a few wires that are not needed. I am modifying it myself for the integration process. The GM harness is easily made to work as a stand-alone harness with some pretty easy mods. I had the GM ECU reprogrammed to remove the VATS (security) and to adjust for tire size and gear ratio. I also had a performance tune installed. The GM emissions will remain since this swap is going to be compliant.

The toyota oil pressure and water temp will function like stock. The vortec engine has an available threaded hole in the passenger side cylinder head where I will pull the water temp signal with a toyota sensor, and the stock toyota oil pressure sender will go into a port that has to be tapped in the vortec oil pan. Volts and fuel level require no mods. The speedometer gets it's signal from the sensor on the transfer case and will require no mods.

Pretty much all of the interface with occur at the IH1, IH2 and IH3 connectors that are located behind the glove box. These connectors are part of the engine harness and the location behind the glove box is where the toyota engine harness connects with the toyota body harness. I will make the integration there with the custom interface harness. I believe (just as toojayzee) that using an interface wiring harness will make it much easier to diagnose any issues that may come up and it will make it possible to build additional harnesses for others who want to make this swap.

Where will/do you get VSS from?
 
subscribed... awesome write up so far.
 
VSS for the speedo comes from the stock toyota sensor on the transfer case. The VSS for the GM ECU comes from the GM sensor that is mounted in the t-case adapter.

Can you clarify - does the VSS connection come with the adapter you purchased or something you fab. Having done 2 FI conversion years ago VSS was picked up between the transfercase and factory speedo pickup.

Sorry if my question seem dumb Im trying to get up to speed on the new way of doing this.
 
Very informative thus far. I could probably muddle my way through the wiring but by the time I bought EWDs and scratched me head for a month I'd be time and money ahead to purchase a harness or interface kit. Let me know if you move forward with making these. As for the VSS. I am wanting to do the 5.3/4l85/FJ60 part time case. (yeah yeah I know, no mileage increase, light steering, blah blah blah, I like to have less parts turning and it doesn't cost any more to swap t-cases when doing the GM swap) Does anyone know if there is a VSS adapter to go into the 60 series manual shift t-case? Maybe there is a better part time case to use? Lots of other little issues and questions I can think of but I don't wanna hi-jack your thread. If you are considering selling the wiring kits I will add them later and I'm sure others have some questions about that too. Thanx
 
There's a couple of other vortec swaps documented in the 80 section and one did use the 60 t-case. It can be done, it's just a matter of selecting the correct adapter from advanced adapters.

The GM VSS would normally come with the donor 4l60e or 4l80e (and variants) transmissions. GM puts the speed sensor in the tail housing so that it senses the output shaft speed of the transmission. GM then uses a sensor in the transfer case that tells the ECM when low range is selected so that it knows to alter the shifter pattern. Toyota does the exact same thing. In reality - toyota uses a speed sensor in the transmission and another in the t-case. The transmission speed sensor tells the TCU (trans control computer) the output shaft speed, and the t-case sensor sends it's signal to the speedometer. When you go to low range, there's a switch on the selector shaft inside the t-case that tells the TCU that the truck is in low range. This is why you see people doing the 'pin 7 mod' in the 80 series when they add a CDL switch in the '93 and later trucks.

For the purpose of the swap to a 4Lx0, we have to retain the GM speed sensor so that the GM ECU knows how to shift the transmission. It plays no part in sending any signal to the speedometer. This is handled by the stock toyota speed sensor that is retained on the t-case. The GM sensor swaps over to the AA adapter and it's function is retained.

Now here's where it gets interesting. when you go to low range, the GM ECU does have an input wire for the low range signal so that just like the toyota, it will also alter the shift pattern to better suite the low range gearing. Now, you have to account for the difference in the low range gearing. IIRC, most of the GM 4wd trucks use a 2.6ish low range gear and the 80 series is very close to this at 2.49. They are pretty close so there is no real need to change the programming inside the GM ECU to account for this. Obviously, it you went to an Orion t-case with a deeper low range, you might have to fiddle with it a little. So bottom line, the toyota low range sensor will substitute for the GM low range sensor and the GM ECU will think it's driving a stock GM truck.

Finally, in regards to the 60 series t-case, you shouldn't have any issues with the VSS. The GM sensor will be in the AA adapter, and the 60 series case should accept the 80 series VSS as a swap over. It's interesting how much interchangeability there is between the 80 series themselves, and also between different makes.

I do indeed plan on figuring out an adapter harness and will make some on the side. The issue is that once I was given a print out of the '93/'94 EWD and compared it to the '96 EWD, there are some differences in the ECU connectors. primarily there is an extra connector (IH3) that exists in the earlier trucks that does not exist in the later trucks. This connector houses all of the trans ECU wires. The '93/'94 trucks use an external trans ECU to operate the A442 and the later trucks have the engine ECU controlling the A340 so some wiring is eliminated in the harness for the later trucks. Regardless, it would take someone wanting to do the swap to forward their engine harness to me for modification. More to follow once I get deeper into this.
 
Can you clarify - does the VSS connection come with the adapter you purchased or something you fab. Having done 2 FI conversion years ago VSS was picked up between the transfercase and factory speedo pickup.

Sorry if my question seem dumb Im trying to get up to speed on the new way of doing this.

the GM VSS would be transplanted from the gm transmission (it plugs into the tail housing on the GM trans) over to the AA adapter. There's a spot that's machined into the adapter to accept the GM VSS. The GM ECU has to see the output shaft speed of the transmission so that it can calculate the shift sequence.

Some of the later trucks (mid 2007 and later) have added another speed sensor - it's located inside the transmission and sense the input shaft speed. It's something to be aware of when shopping donor engines and transmissions. You would want to be sure you got a matched set so that the GM ECM has the correct programming for the transmission. My prgrammer told me its a $200 additional fee to reflash the an ECM to eliminate the input shaft speed programming should you choose an engine that came from a 2007 or newer truck and wanted to use an older transmission. I got lucky. I bought my engine first and didn't know there was a difference. It took some time on the net to determine my engine was not new enough for the ISS.
 

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