No affiliation. Looks nice. 1991 LAND CRUISER PICK UP HZ75
craigslist 1991 HZJ75 pickup PDX $25K
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By no means am I "pitching" the truck (as the saying goes "I have no dog in the fight"). I'm simply pointing out that the truck as it appears (granted it's difficult to see the warts with a handful of photos) is not overpriced in my opinion.
Just looked at this. It's a 25' truck, in that it is OK from that distance and starts to get worse the closer you get.
Imported from Central America, originally US titled in AZ (now WA). Current owner says he's had it for about 2yrs and all work besides tires is by the PO.
It's had a hard life if the 176km ODO is to be believed. Repainted (obviously) and not well. Overspray or outright full coat of paint on things that have no business being painted. No signs of rust bubbles in the obvious places like the rockers/fender bottoms or bed though.
Neither door closes without serious slamming, and their alignment/panel gaps, aftermarket radiator/bumper/headlights all seem to indicate a really good front end hit. Entire underside of body and chassis appears to have been sprayed with bedliner, not rubberized rust inhibitor.
Probably go another 28 years reliably but won't be winning any concourse awards any time soon.
Imported from Central America, originally US titled in AZ (now WA). Current owner says he's had it for about 2yrs and all work besides tires is by the PO.
It's had a hard life if the 176km ODO is to be believed. Repainted (obviously) and not well. Overspray or outright full coat of paint on things that have no business being painted. No signs of rust bubbles in the obvious places like the rockers/fender bottoms or bed though.
Neither door closes without serious slamming, and their alignment/panel gaps, aftermarket radiator/bumper/headlights all seem to indicate a really good front end hit. Entire underside of body and chassis appears to have been sprayed with bedliner, not rubberized rust inhibitor.
Probably go another 28 years reliably but won't be winning any concourse awards any time soon.
gilmorneau
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I just looked, and you can get a European HZJ75 pickup for around 15,000 Euro, which is about right to be "all in" at $25,000US when you get it to an East Coast US port. That includes conversion EUR to USD, "chicken tax", and shipping. Totally rough estimates, but certainly in the ballpark.
But for 15,000 Euro, you won't get a beautiful one. Workable, maybe, but not beautiful. Expect some rust, maybe 250-300k+ km's, and a truck that looks like it's worked for a living (which most of them have). It'll need some lovin'.
For a beautiful (1HZ, a/c, low miles, no rust) Euro pickup, you're looking at more like 25,000-30,000 Euro. Assuming you can find one. That puts you closer to $40-45,000US "all in". Ouch.
But for 15,000 Euro, you won't get a beautiful one. Workable, maybe, but not beautiful. Expect some rust, maybe 250-300k+ km's, and a truck that looks like it's worked for a living (which most of them have). It'll need some lovin'.
For a beautiful (1HZ, a/c, low miles, no rust) Euro pickup, you're looking at more like 25,000-30,000 Euro. Assuming you can find one. That puts you closer to $40-45,000US "all in". Ouch.
Thus the term "pay to play".
I wonder if bench seats and a canvas cover would allow a pickup to be imported as a "passenger vehicle" and thus avoid the chicken tax?
Like this:
Like this:
That is way cool.
Thanks
It would be great man!
gilmorneau
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Not technically. The "chicken tax" is levied based on the vehicle's original "primary configuration" (i.e. was it primarily configured by the manufacturer to carry goods, or was it primarily configured to carry passengers?). The tax is not based on what you've done to it since. Thus, because Subaru originally configured the BRAT (remember the BRAT?) with rear seats and seat belts, they didn't have to pay the "chicken tax", even though it was probably the most transparent of ploys to avoid paying it. But if you buy a pickup and put rear seats in it, that doesn't change the fact that Landcruiser pickups are primarily configured by the manufacturer to carry goods, and you'd still technically be liable for the 25% tax.
You might get away with it if you bought a cargo van and converted it to a passenger van, but it's pretty hard to argue that a pickup is primarily designed for anything but cargo-carrying. All the above said, you might get away with only paying 2.5% anyway, even on a pickup or cargo van, if your Customs inspector isn't super detail oriented. The intent of the whole "chicken tax" thing is protect American truck manufacturers from foreign competition, not to discourage one-off importation of 25 year old specialty vehicles (even though the law applies equally in both situations). Budget for the "chicken tax", and be stoked if somehow you don't end up paying it.
RodrigzCrzr
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Are you thinking of this one?
https://forum.ih8mud.com/attachments/1993_75-jpg.1915391/
I thought the same. But it’s not.
FJBen
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No it definitely was that red color and I remember questions of shoddiness were brought up at the time as well. It's driving me crazy as I can't remember if it was awhile ago or not that long ago. The color and the upholstery stands out.
goodtwin
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Yeah! I definitely remember this one also. It was for sale down in the L.A. area and I remember the weird upholstery and lack of FF rear as well.
