Gotcha, my firestones just delivered today. $100 on Amazon
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Honestly the bags are all functionally the same. Just get whichever that you can source easily. They're low tech enough that they'll likely all stand the test of time.
IMO, I see no reason to use over 35 PSI. I'm 5200lbs on the rear axle and I only ever use ~18PSI, at least with AHC.
I believe that's true. I just replace soem old school AirLift's from my 100-series. Needed taller ones for a recent lift so have Firestones W237604164 now. Blue FTW.
They are the same partsI saw two different sets on Amazon, the w237604164 and 4164 (the ones I purchased)…are these different heights? The Firestone site only shows this:
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If anyone is still watching this thread. I am planning on installing the Firestone bags in my '97 80-series. I watched the Airbag Man video and they drill holes through the flooring for the air line, however, most of the setups I see have the lines run under the vehicle to valves installed under the bumper. Are you guys feeding the air lines through the flooring into the cargo area and then back out under the vehicle? Or are you able to route them out top of the airbag without going through the floor?
Second question. Since I am going to be removing the springs, it it worthwhile to replace them? And if so, is there a better choice other than stock? I was looking on Dobinson's site and they have a lot of options for replacement. They have a 1.75" lift spring for front and rear and thought that might be better for clearance under load and small enough that I don't need to add sway bar brackets or anything...I think
Appreciate the advice!
Great info and advice. I was hoping to just run the lines underneath to the rear bumper. I really like the idea of installing a bracket under the bumper to fit the valves. I also love the stock ride. I installed larger tires last fall and honestly didn't realize how much it would change the feel at higher speeds, so I don't want to make matters worse.No need to drill through the cab. Space enough underneath to run it along the frame. If you take the spare down, it'll make it easier to see and route the lines. If you must run the lines inside for whatever reason, there's nice grommets existing in the cab where the bottle jack is and similar on the other side.
RE: springs - the beauty of airbags is to keep the stock springs / spring rate to keep that magic carpet ride. Sure if you want to replace OEM for OEM for the tad of settling, it's cheap enough, but I personally wouldn't bother. Any side to side setting can be solved by 5/10mm trim packers. If you have permanently installed weight, that would be a reason to go up in spring rate. If you want a firmer sportier ride and lift, that could be a reason to swap springs too. The sportier ride could be accomplished with shocks too. If you want a minor lift without trade to ride quality, 30-40mm spacers.
Then airbags handle the rest.
There's a nice existing bracket with holes to tie into under the tailgate cover. Just need to enlarge them a tad.Great info and advice. I was hoping to just run the lines underneath to the rear bumper. I really like the idea of installing a bracket under the bumper to fit the valves. I also love the stock ride. I installed larger tires last fall and honestly didn't realize how much it would change the feel at higher speeds, so I don't want to make matters worse.
Thanks again
Oh, that's brilliant! Thanks!There's a nice existing bracket with holes to tie into under the tailgate cover. Just need to enlarge them a tad.
Is that tire winch handle brush/guide a factory install? Never seen that before…gotta love Toyota
I think he’s talking about that frayed piece of tape. It’s not an intended brush to knock off dirt, but I can see how it looks that way.If you're asking about the thin tube, it's a torsion spring and part of the soft open tailgate that comes in the LX and later model year LCs.
I'm getting airbags installed toward the end of the month. I'm making a angle iron bracket to screw on to that dual-hole tab thingey because I'm reluctant to have the installer (or even myself) drill it to enlarge it. It would be great if I can have the bracket pre-drilled and all ready for the installer to just bolt everything together. The holes in the tab on my LC are almost exactly 1/4 in. Do you happen to remember the "tad larger" size hole you drilled to accomodate the schrader valves? Thanks!There's a nice existing bracket with holes to tie into under the tailgate cover. Just need to enlarge them a tad.
Did you purchase your airbag man kit directly from AU or is there a US supplier?Replacing my Firestone bags with new AirbagMan set w/ HP Sleeves tomorrow + 10mm OME trim packer.