If I were to get one, I would totally talk to the extended warranty company that keeps calling. 
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They say they will be nominating existing businesses to maintain the Grenadier. I think some ARB dealers in Australia have been nominated. There wont be old stye dealers with showrooms full of shiny new cars.
From the videos Ive seen, it doesnt look overly complicated. The drive train looks easy to access. I would be asking these nominated businesses about the labour charge and service parts charge BEFORE I bought one.
Like landcruisers, if you can do the oil, coolant and filter changes and fix the odd blown fuse or relay, you will save a lot of money.
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The best way to stop them from calling is to make a claim on the extended warranty.If I were to get one, I would totally talk to the extended warranty company that keeps calling.
If somebody wants $100,000 from me for a truck, not only am I NOT working it by myself, I expect the dealership to pick it up from my house, fix it for free if something breaks under warranty, and then drop it off in front of my house washed and detailed.BMW parts are far less expensive than Toyota parts ime. And the engines/cars are not that hard to work on -- RHEINGOLD tells you exactly what's wrong. The main problem is breaking s*** while you're removing everything to get at the bit you need to fix or replace.
On the other hand, maybe I'm wrong to keep thinking of 'Mud as a place where guys know how to fix their own junk rather than knowing where the nearest dealer is.
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Is there a Bentley dealership nearby. Ineos might give you a bus ticket or a 50cc moped.
Warranties are great. Otherwise, the more valuable my junk, the more likely I'm doing the work.
mudgudgeon
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So I need another mall crawler because I don’t want to do expensive warranty repairs out of my own pocket for a vehicle made of expensive German parts?I hear range rovers are quite nice! And look good at the mall
mudgudgeon
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I guess if you can drop $100k on any vehicle, you're probably astute enough to weigh what's on offer with your 'needs'.
Be silly to spend $100k and be dissapointed.
If a shiny car and valet service are what's important for you, I'm thinking you probably don't need a grenadier, even if you 'need' one.
mudgudgeon
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When did these become a $100k vehicle?
I'm sure the thread started out discussing $45-50k range? Even though it was clearly not gonna hit that bracket
I'm sure the thread started out discussing $45-50k range? Even though it was clearly not gonna hit that bracket
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Well, they are $84k for the base model here, thats a panel van with 2 doors. The $45-50k price was probably in US dollars sometime back.
This is a boutique kit car made in Austria from BMW parts.
The jeep wrangler 392, which will stomp this thing into the ground, costs more than $80,000.
There’s no way in hell these things will cost less than $90,000 US.
mudgudgeon
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Yeah, I mean, it's no surprise it's gonna be well over the $50k range.
Wasn't sure if pricing had been locked down
Wasn't sure if pricing had been locked down
mudgudgeon
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That’s it! I’m sold! Y’all convinced me this is the best. Thanks fellows
And it only took 13 pages. The bronco debate is nearly 40 pages
Imma going gets one of those as well and head to the black bear pass.
From the articles I read is there plan is for BMW dealerships to support the vehicle. Additionally I heard the FSM and 3D part blow outs are free for any shop/owner to access to fix. Any shop should be able to work on this, everything is sourced from other manufacturers and the parts have been out for awhile. Nothing is new and unseen.
Based on the Aussie and Euro prices this should be 60-70k starting in the US.
Based on the Aussie and Euro prices this should be 60-70k starting in the US.
There was a semi-recent craigslist ad out here for an Audi allroad with the 4.2 v8 for 1500 bucks with a "timing chain issue." I googled the engine for a few minutes and realized that could lead to about a 4k repair bill for a car that booked at 6k. No thank you. I also found an image of the front of that engine with all of the covers removed and I now have nightmares.
Parts support is one thing, but ease of repair is a completely different animal.
Parts support is one thing, but ease of repair is a completely different animal.
There reason for all of this is the extremely efficient packaging lets you stuff gigantic engines into small cars for massive performance gains, but the downside is is that routine repairs turn into big-time nightmares because of all the stuff you have to remove and disassemble to get to anything.
The best analogy I can think of is it’s like a ship in a bottle. You have to build it outside of the bottle, then you put it into the bottle, and then you hope nothing breaks, because it’s kind of stuck in there.
I wish good luck to all the backyard mechanics who think they are professional enough to dick around with a BMW engine and a ZF transmission in their driveway without any of the proprietary software necessary to talk to the computers which tend to get surly when a connection is loose or management software wasn’t written properly.
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France actually. I think there is an Austrian connection but I dont recall what is.