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As far as I know South Africa will also be getting these albeit a bit later than Aus.
 
So in reading the press release, it states that "these updates guarantee the future of the 70 series"...I thought Toyota was killing this model, is this no longer the case? Great news if so, and maybe a snowball's chance in hell they will try to punt it in the States
 
Here is the new cruiser on the dyno.

 
So in reading the press release, it states that "these updates guarantee the future of the 70 series"...I thought Toyota was killing this model, is this no longer the case? Great news if so, and maybe a snowball's chance in hell they will try to punt it in the States

Originally ,the big miners in Australia said they would no longer take them without side airbags. At first Toyota said that was not possible and now they have done it and extended its lifespan.
 
Originally ,the big miners in Australia said they would no longer take them without side airbags. At first Toyota said that was not possible and now they have done it and extended its lifespan.

Well, here's to hoping that Australia being such a huge market for the rigs continues to buy them so that Toyota has the remote possibility of offering them stateside. I'd be first in line
 
Well, here's to hoping that Australia being such a huge market for the rigs continues to buy them so that Toyota has the remote possibility of offering them stateside. I'd be first in line

Have a look at this video around the 17 minute mark. It mentions something about the Toyota possibly wanting to bring the 70 to NA. Maybe????? But don't hold your breath.
 
Have a look at this video around the 17 minute mark. It mentions something about the Toyota possibly wanting to bring the 70 to NA. Maybe?????

I have discussed this at length in other posts on Mud but Toyota USA will likely never bring the 70 Series to the US.*

  • The 70 Series is not as safe as other 4x4s Toyota sells in the US; The 2016 single cab 70 would do ok with skid control but the others, without 5 airbags and the frame stiffening, would fare worse than the Tacoma or Tundra or competition with more modern safety features.

  • A 70 Series in the US would eat into Toyota's own Tacoma and Tundra sales. This is important because Tacoma and Tundra are both made in the US, and are more profitable for Toyota USA than say a Hilux imported in from elsewhere. So not only would a 70 Series eat into Toyota's own market share, but also it would be less profitable than the 4x4 pickup that they sell today

  • The small market for the 70 Series would make it not worthwhile to sell. Note that in Australia, home to 20-30% of all of the 70s sold in the world, the main customers are mining companies, not general automotive consumers. It is a commercial vehicle in essence, which is why I think those of us who like it, like it. However, the cost to stock the parts, the cost to train the dealers, the cost to even get the truck past US regulations, not to mention marketing, etc. would be unprofitable.
* Note: I worked at Toyota USA HQ in the 90s in Strategic Planning and Information Systems. The Product Planning team was right next to me and while I did not do that job, I got a very good understanding of all of the decisions that go into bringing a new vehicle to market. It is often a multiple-year project (especially with popular products like Corolla or Camry) and I just don't see a case to be made for the 70 Series to be sold in the US, sadly. I think if they put in the clean diesel that's in the new 2016 Prado or the 1GR-FE, it would pass emissions, but that's just one piece of the puzzle. My point is that I have worked at Toyota USA HQ in a related area and am not just a random poster without relevant experience.
 
When they are talking about North America,they probably mean Canada
 
Hello,

More specifically, they mean Canada miners.





Juan
 
I have discussed this at length in other posts on Mud but Toyota USA will likely never bring the 70 Series to the US.*

  • The 70 Series is not as safe as other 4x4s Toyota sells in the US; The 2016 single cab 70 would do ok with skid control but the others, without 5 airbags and the frame stiffening, would fare worse than the Tacoma or Tundra or competition with more modern safety features.

  • A 70 Series in the US would eat into Toyota's own Tacoma and Tundra sales. This is important because Tacoma and Tundra are both made in the US, and are more profitable for Toyota USA than say a Hilux imported in from elsewhere. So not only would a 70 Series eat into Toyota's own market share, but also it would be less profitable than the 4x4 pickup that they sell today

  • The small market for the 70 Series would make it not worthwhile to sell. Note that in Australia, home to 20-30% of all of the 70s sold in the world, the main customers are mining companies, not general automotive consumers. It is a commercial vehicle in essence, which is why I think those of us who like it, like it. However, the cost to stock the parts, the cost to train the dealers, the cost to even get the truck past US regulations, not to mention marketing, etc. would be unprofitable.
* Note: I worked at Toyota USA HQ in the 90s in Strategic Planning and Information Systems. The Product Planning team was right next to me and while I did not do that job, I got a very good understanding of all of the decisions that go into bringing a new vehicle to market. It is often a multiple-year project (especially with popular products like Corolla or Camry) and I just don't see a case to be made for the 70 Series to be sold in the US, sadly. I think if they put in the clean diesel that's in the new 2016 Prado or the 1GR-FE, it would pass emissions, but that's just one piece of the puzzle. My point is that I have worked at Toyota USA HQ in a related area and am not just a random poster without relevant experience.

Agreed and well put. Never happening.
 
Hello,

More specifically, they mean Canada miners.





Juan

Could be ,but Ive always thought Canada would be an ideal place to sell the 7* series. Canada is a bit like Australia Africa and South America having long distances with bad roads and not much in between towns.
 
Could be ,but Ive always thought Canada would be an ideal place to sell the 7* series. Canada is a bit like Australia Africa and South America having long distances with bad roads and not much in between towns.


Well, RoscoeFJ73 and others,

I certainly hope, and pray, that Canada is considered by Toyota as a market (even just a test market) for the 70 series. But reality is what it is: it makes sense to think Gkanai has it right, considering that the Canadian market is similar enough to the American one, such that exporting the 70s to Canada does not make much business sense.
If, IF that is wrong (let us pray), all Toyota would have to do is ensure cold starting capabilities and proper heating for -40C weather.
 
Could be ,but Ive always thought Canada would be an ideal place to sell the 7* series. Canada is a bit like Australia Africa and South America having long distances with bad roads and not much in between towns.

Hello Rosco,

You are right. The long distances/bad roads/sparse population combination makes Canada ideal for the 70 Series. However, and I am speculating a lot here, it is possible that Toyota assumes Canadians have the same preferences as Americans regarding 4WD trucks, with cup holders having precedence over reliability.

If this is the case, miners are the sole user.

Nevertheless, I would love to be wrong.







Juan
 

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