94 FZJ 80 without ABS and FF rear.

[kidglove13]

I have a 94 without ABS and no FF rear. I guess these are rare.
I am also assuming that I do not have a VC either.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages with having or not having these things on my rig?
Yes I am a newb and just wnat to learn as much as I can about my rig.
Thanks

 

[Lka1988]

No advantages come to mind... One disadvantage is that you don't have rear disc brakes.

 

[BenMara]

i own one of those fabled FZJ80s

 

[Lka1988]

I own one, too, but it's got the mighty 3FE

 

[Beowulf]

I have a 94 without ABS and no FF rear. I guess these are rare.
I am also assuming that I do not have a VC either.
Are there any advantages or disadvantages with having or not having these things on my rig?
Yes I am a newb and just wnat to learn as much as I can about my rig.
Thanks

Rare in the sense that fewer built without those options were imported to the North American market because the trend in the US 80-Series market was to load these vehicles with all available options and safety features. Rare as in highly desirable .... not so much.

Personally, I only see disadvantages but at least one other 'Mudder (Alky) would disagree. The FF axle is an excellent engineering upgrade over the semi-floater that most mortal vehicles are equipped with. The ABS is an excellent safety feature and disk brakes have been standard equipment on better vehicles and performance vehicles for many, many years. Another disadvantage is that you cannot retrofit the Toyota OEM rear diff-lock option as you could if you had the FF rear axle.

I believe your transfer case is the same as the ABS equipped vehicles and will still have the VC but I could be wrong. Can you give us the model number of the transfer?

Don't be discouraged though because the rear drum brakes are still very good and the vehicle is still safe without ABS and the semi-floater axle is still a very strong rear axle. ARB makes an excellent selectable locker for your rear SF axle. Yours is still a high-quality vehicle with excellent on-road and off-road capabilities.

-B-

 

[gisham]

yea well my 94 does not have a sunroof..now thats rare! So rare ill get flamed for even mentioning it!

 

[kidglove13]

I do not have the T-case #. I actually prefer not to have ABS, coming from building old hotrods and such safety with that does not concern me to much. It is good to know that the semi float rear is still very stout and that there is a locker out there for it when I want to add one later. I never doubted the off road capability of my rig with or without those things, I know that these rigs are awesome regardless that is why I bought one. I just want to know everything I can about them the good and the bad.

 

[cruiserdan]

The 93-94 vehicles without FF/ABS do not have a VC in the transfer case.

 

[kidglove13]

Not having VC is that good or bad?

 

[Vitesse_6]

Welcome to the club kid

 

[kidglove13]

Thanks, still baselining the rig. Just want all of the knowledge from the mud gods!

 

[cruiserdan]

Not having VC is that good or bad?

The VC is a component of the ABS system and it does indeed work well, particularly when it comes to snow.

 

[kidglove13]

Good to know. Thanks

 

[80t0ylc]

So then he must also have the dash mounted CDL (Center Diff. Lock) switch as standard, right?

 

[cruiserdan]

Yes...

 

[Box Rocket]

So C-Dan explain to me how the center diff works in this thing compared to a later VC unit? My '93 is a nonABS/SF rear axle truck as well and I always assumed I had a VC.

 

[80t0ylc]

So C-Dan explain to me how the center diff works in this thing compared to a later VC unit? My '93 is a nonABS/SF rear axle truck as well and I always assumed I had a VC.

Adam, not to butt in, but the center diff in non VC transfer cases just works like an open axle diff with a selectable locker. If 1 wheel is without traction on either axle with CDL unlocked, you're stuck. Lock CDL and the other axle will give you traction, providing both wheels have traction on that axle.

The VC transfer case is like an axle diff with posi-traction and a selectable locker. Posi-traction had it's limits, as we all know, so in extended low traction situations, locking the CDL will give better performance. HTH

 

[aclos3]

My knowledge of 94s is lacking, but does yours have a center diff lock button, or is it like the later ones that can only CDL in 4Lo? Without a VC, I would definitely get a button to lock the center diff in 4Hi. As 80t0ylc explained, without a VC, you are essentially stuck if any wheel loses traction and your center diff is not locked. The VC is awesome in snow and slick conditions, in that it drastically helps mitigate wheel spin by transferring torque away from the slipping axle. I hear that some people like having the center diff locked in 4Hi better in the snow (50/50 torque to each axle, no transfer based on slippage).

I will say that after this wild winter we had, I have never driven a finer vehicle on snow and ice than my stock rig and I don't have 4Hi CDL capability (but do have a VC). Some friends and I went out to the bars on one of the first big snowy nights and my friend was DD driving my rig. He took everyone home and barely commented about how the 80 was doing in the snow, figuring the roads just weren't that bad yet since we weren't slipping at all. The next day he really commented after explaining that after dropping us off, he got into his Honda Accord FWD with new M/S rated tires and had to chain up to make it even 100 yards. It was at this point that he realized just how well the 80 handles snow.

 

[kidglove13]

Mine has a center diff lock button.

 

[cool breeze]

PAIR system vs. maf...less or no performance mods available
odb1
i perfer no vc, just one less thing that could out/fry...if its slipper just lock the cdl
for $275 stick an aussie in the rear...retro fit a front e-locker
the ONE thing i really wish i had for safety dd is abs