hard top storage dolly

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Almost 2 years ago I started a landcruiser build. (You can read my build thread here.) Prior to buying my cruiser I barely even knew how to tell an FJ40 apart from a J**p. I was anything but a landcruiser nut. But I was at a point in my life where I needed a project, and I had a great friend with a near limitless knowlege of all things cruiser (plus a pretty good stockpile of extra parts), so I bought somebody else's project and made it my own. Since that time I can't count how many hours I've spent on Mud researching and learning about landcruisers.

Now that my cruiser is off to paint I have some time to button up a few of the little things I still need to do before reassembly. It's warming up here and I'm going to want to be spending as much time as possible with the top off during the summer. I figure a lot of you will, too. Detailing out how to build your own hard top storage dolly is one of the things I've been wanting to do to give back to the ih8Mud community.

Some of you may have already seen pictures of the dolly in my build thread. For those of you who haven't, here is a picture of it in use. The idea was to have a way to store my hard top in as little space as possible and be able to work around it as needed. My garage ceiling is too low to hang the hard top with a hoist, and this setup is still compact enough to fit both the hard top and the landcruiser in the same garage parking space. It's not perfect, but overall I'd consider it a success.

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Well, since pictures are worth a thousand words, I'm going to for the most part let the pictures do the talking. The design is my own. I apologize in advance if appears to plagarize from anybody else's work. I started with a clean slate. Feel free to borrow as much of the design as you want, and improve on it where you can.

The materials I used for the dolly were:
2x4 lumber
2x8 lumber
2x10 lumber
4x plate style swivel casters
some 3" 1/4-20 hex bolts and washers
1/4-20 T-nuts
some 1" diameter eyelets
a cheap welcome mat
a staple gun with 3/8" staples
wood glue and some 2 1/2" wood screws

Here it is from the top side, with a couple of notes. It should be pretty obvious how everything goes together.

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Start by building the main frame, but don't attach the casters just yet. The hard top stores pretty close to vertical and you'll want to get your rear casters further back than I did if possible. Rolling mine in reverse, with the casters swiveled forward, I worry that if I were to hit a bump it could fall over. I'd recommend adding the eyelets and some straps between the hard top tubes and the dolly.

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The front supports are fairly straightforward. I covered the pieces with the welcome mat before attaching them to the frame, hence the 3/8" gap. I used 2x8's for the double pieces, but you could just as easily use the leftover pieces of 2x10. The 8" long pieces of 2x4 line up with the corners of the 2x10, and the double 2x8 pieces line up with the inside edges of the 2x4's.

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The rear pieces get a little more complicated. I actually screwed these up and had to do a bit of shaping to get everything to fit right. And since I didn't take pictures the first time (not that they would have done much good anyway) what you get are pics of my "corrected" dolly. I think this is the shape that I had originally intended to use, but I screwed up the piece in the next picture and instead of having this piece tilt forward to account for the slope of the back of the hard top it ended up perpendicular to the frame. I don't recall what the radius was for the curve, nor am I going to attempt to guess. Be sure to test fit how these pieces (including the spacing between them) fit your hard top so you don't end up with a lot of weight resting on a small area when you load the dolly. These rear pieces rest just above the rear quarter windows.

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This piece gets a little tricky, and I'm sure my math doesn't work out exactly. Once again I used 2x8's here, but 2x10's would work just fine. The upper left corner will not match up with the other piece, giving you an inddication of how much shaping you will need to do. A flapdisk on an angle grinder worked well to shape the pieces. Once again, test fit everything to your hard top. I covered the pair of these pieces after they were assembled and shaped correctly. The angle of this piece does not quite line up with the double 2x8 pieces towards the front because of the slight bend to the hard top near the bottoms of the corner windows.

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A couple of notes: I designed this based off of a 1970 (hatch style) hard top. There could very easily be interference problems with the ambulance door hinges or features from other years. Wrinkle top owners, you're probably on your own. The casters I used measured 3 3/4" tall, and with the hard top stored the overall height was 92" or so. Double check that you will be able to roll the dolly in and out of your garage, because taking the hard top off and setting it on the dolly is much easier to do outside.

I've apprecited all the feedback and positive response on my build thread. It keeps me going. I hope some of you find these instructions useful.

Brock
 
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Well I think it's cool.

Hey Brock,
I, for one, think this is very cool. I just removed all the cables from the ceiling of my garage and was looking for a decent alternative and I think this may be just the ticket. Thanks for the detailed diagrams. Now I need to figure out how to bookmark this post so I can find it when I'm ready to build.
 
That is a really cool way to store your top with a small foot print. Works great. (As I helped MrPepper assemble it) Is there anything you would have done differently if you built another one? - Or if you helped me build one?
 
Very cool.
The one thing I'd do would be to add storage for doors & hatch in the middle (or 4 doors).
 
What attaches the dolly to the top? I am not seeing anything except the screw eyes.
Looks cool, I'll have to do that too.
 
if I am not mistaken, it is just gravity. the lower part, for the bottom of the top, has a raised portion to keep the top from sliding off. the curved blocks are a little higher to hold the top level.

I think bikersmurf is onto something with the door holder idea, perhaps some sturdy dowels spaced wide enough to slip them in.
 
Gravity keeps the hard top on the dolly. When the top is on, the CG of the whole thing is a little to the rear of center, so I typically keep a pair of tie downs between the tubes and the screw eyes.

Having a way to store the doors with the dolly is a fantastic idea. I will leave the hatch attached to the hard top, but I didn't even think about having some way to store the doors. That's what I get for building this while my cruiser was in a million pieces I guess. Looking at it, I think I'll just throw down a towel on the hatch glass, put a tie down strap between the hard top tubes, lean both doors up against the strap, and put another strap across the front of them to keep them from falling over. They might lean a little forward that way, but they should be plenty stable. The idea of adding a couple of dowels to store the doors could work if the hatch was removed. Maybe it is the best solution for later model hard tops because you have to store the ambulance doors in addition to the front doors. Storing them that way would add depth (because the doors would store perpendicular to the hard top) so keep that in mind.

VI, as to things I would do differently: I would have used a pair of locking casters instead of all non-locking ones. I'd put the locking casters on the front edge, btw, to make it easier to get the hard top lined up on the dolly and tilted upright. I would have designed it so the hard top leaned slightly more forward than it does now (so the top edge of the hard top was maybe 6" forward of where it is now). I would have designed it to use only 2x4's and 2x10's because I used almost nothing from the 2x8 I bought for it. I used T-nuts because I thought there might be a time I would want to break the dolly down for storage, but breaking it down wouldn't save much space so I'd forgo the expense of those next time. I might consider a different material to protect the hard top than a welcome mat, because it's hard to tell if anything nasty has made it into the mat that could scratch my soon-to-be-new paint job.
 
I'd be hesitant to leave the weight of the doors on the glass... It could pop out or??

With the hatch on, I think a carefully planed out board with some pads on the bottom could go across over the hard top to distribute the weight. I'd also add some tie downs to ensure everything stayed in place... Probably unnecessary, but I've had things shift on Dolly's when moving crap around.
 
Harbor Freight Furniture Dolly

This item for $12, plus about 4' of 1" angle iron and you're done. Maybe not as stable as what the OP built, but I've been using mine for years. All four doors of my '78 stack nicely inside the top on the dolly, leaned up inside the top and you can roll the whole mess around.

Harbor Freight: Mover's Dolly

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This item for $12, plus about 4' of 1" angle iron and you're done. Maybe not as stable as what the OP built, but I've been using mine for years. All four doors of my '78 stack nicely inside the top on the dolly, leaned up inside the top and you can roll the whole mess around.

Harbor Freight: Mover's Dolly

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Pics?

That'd be an economical way to get 4 castors.
 
Dolly

Nice job....thanks for the measurements.
 
Fast Eddie, can you post a pic? I'm curious to see what you did with the angle iron. Did you just swap the 2x4's of the dolly with angle iron to space them further out so it holds the hard top to the sides of the hatch? I'm having a hard time picturing your solution.
 
Fast Eddie, can you post a pic? I'm curious to see what you did with the angle iron. Did you just swap the 2x4's of the dolly with angle iron to space them further out so it holds the hard top to the sides of the hatch? I'm having a hard time picturing your solution.

I don't have a picture here. Imagine the top sitting on the rig. You would hook the carpeted edge over the drip rail and it would hang there with the casters facing out. The angle iron attaches to two of the amby door screws on each side and to the rails of the dolly in the middle. When it's sitting upright the angle iron is below the wooden rails of the dolly. All the doors stack inside the top with their weight on the dolly rails.
 
I like both ideas... Thx for shareing
 
I so want one of these... and a garage tidy enough to fit in with the 40. :D
 
I don't have a picture here. Imagine the top sitting on the rig. You would hook the carpeted edge over the drip rail and it would hang there with the casters facing out. The angle iron attaches to two of the amby door screws on each side and to the rails of the dolly in the middle. When it's sitting upright the angle iron is below the wooden rails of the dolly. All the doors stack inside the top with their weight on the dolly rails.

Up from the depths...

@Fast Eddy any chance you got a pic of this contraption now?

looking for ideas for a cart/dolly for an assembled 40 top. with the doors in the negative space.
 

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