Builds Yajū 野獣 (aka Beast)

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What grade of steel are you using for the frame? If one really wanted to go next level, one could fabricate it out of 316L stainless steel, the frame would last forever though distortion management during the welding process would be required.

I'd never use SS or recommend it for a frame regardless of welding parameters. A quick search just starts the flaws using it.

Magnesium chloride (MgCl2) can significantly affect 316 stainless steel by promoting corrosion, particularly through a process called "stress corrosion cracking" when exposed to high chloride concentrations, especially in environments with stress on the metal, leading to potential cracking and failure of the stainless steel component; although 316 stainless steel is considered relatively resistant to chloride corrosion, high concentrations of magnesium chloride can still pose a risk, particularly in harsh conditions like high temperature or prolonged exposure.

Key points about magnesium chloride and 316 stainless steel:

• Corrosion mechanism:
  Magnesium chloride can readily penetrate the passive layer on the stainless steel surface, allowing corrosion to occur, especially in the presence of moisture or high humidity.
• Stress corrosion cracking (SCC):
  This is a major concern with magnesium chloride and 316 stainless steel, where tensile stress combined with chloride ions can lead to localized cracking within the metal.
• Environmental factors:
  Factors like temperature, concentration of magnesium chloride, and presence of other ions can significantly influence the corrosion rate.
  
  

 

[DrRock]

I'd never use SS or recommend it for a frame regardless of welding parameters. A quick search just starts the flaws using it.

Magnesium chloride (MgCl2) can significantly affect 316 stainless steel by promoting corrosion, particularly through a process called "stress corrosion cracking" when exposed to high chloride concentrations, especially in environments with stress on the metal, leading to potential cracking and failure of the stainless steel component; although 316 stainless steel is considered relatively resistant to chloride corrosion, high concentrations of magnesium chloride can still pose a risk, particularly in harsh conditions like high temperature or prolonged exposure.

Key points about magnesium chloride and 316 stainless steel:

• Corrosion mechanism:
  Magnesium chloride can readily penetrate the passive layer on the stainless steel surface, allowing corrosion to occur, especially in the presence of moisture or high humidity.
• Stress corrosion cracking (SCC):
  This is a major concern with magnesium chloride and 316 stainless steel, where tensile stress combined with chloride ions can lead to localized cracking within the metal.
• Environmental factors:
  Factors like temperature, concentration of magnesium chloride, and presence of other ions can significantly influence the corrosion rate.

Jason, out of curiosity, where would the high exposure to MgCl2come from? We use 316L in marine applications frequently with great results in cast and other manufacturing processes.

 

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Jason, out of curiosity, where would the high exposure to MgCl come from? We use 316L in marine applications frequently with great results in cast and other manufacturing processes.

If you live in a state that de-ices the roads.................

 

[DrRock]

If you live in a state that de-ices the roads.................

Hey Jason, Most states use NaCl (sodium chloride) on roads as it's a much cheaper alternative and readily available. There are some areas where MgCl2 is used but just as an addition to the mix.

 

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Hey Jason, Most states use NaCl (sodium chloride) on roads as it's a much cheaper alternative and readily available. There are some areas where MgCl2 is used but just as an addition to the mix.

Even in CT where you are they use a blend of it with salt. Go drive for a week in or through UT, WY, CO, SD, ND, etc... you'll be power washing that crap off the underbelly of your truck until the next snow season...

https://cga.ct.gov/2014/rpt/pdf/2014-R-0001.pdf

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Are those big as bolts going through the top of the body mounts on that frame into the jig?

 

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Are those big as bolts going through the top of the body mounts on that frame into the jig?

Yep,

24mm alignment bolts.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Yep,

24mm alignment bolts.

Nice bitch ain't going nowhere

 

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Nice bitch ain't going nowhere

Only way to build a jig.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Only way to build a jig.

Exactly

 

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Got the test rail completely tacked out and I'm extremely happy. I'll get some misc slots, tap holes, steering box holes, etc.. and bumper mounting finalized and then off to laser cutter for the first run sample.

Started assembling the FOX coilovers.

Got to se @Butt Ugly Chuck and his daughter Shelby for a bit today. Always good to spend time and show them all the toys.

 

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Frame rail files off to the laser cutter for the sample cuts.

Ordered the custom length 1.5" diameter sway bars for front and rear as well.

 

[WSOPgold2012]

 

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Well the LT4 Erod for a Cali CARB swap is back-ordered indefinitely at the moment. Per my GM rep " There is a mandatory alteration to the wording/instructions for all Erods (LS3, LT1 & LT4) for CALI CARB EO#".

His understanding is that refs will not approve a swap until a new released OE# is supplied with the revised paperwork.

BUT.... the older LS3 Erod out there and not installed are still available/acceptable for swap. This state kills me some days.... So I met the local ref yesterday up at the college and this is accurate, but NOW no EO# approved supercharger is allowed to be added to an Erod. Which was acceptable for the last few years. BUMMER!

SO............... I still have a couple of older LS3 Erods on the rack. I'm going to wait a couple months while I do other mods and finish the frames for Georg and a few others and then decide. But right now looks like this build will be getting a LS3 Erod, TR4050 and HF2A case with part time kit.

 

[BurntToast]

Kalifornia strikes again…. Too bad on the superchargers.

What is the swaybars you are working on? I’m considering an anti-rock for my rear. Couldn’t get the 62 one to work with the 80 offset

 

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Kalifornia strikes again…. Too bad on the superchargers.

What is the swaybars you are working on? I’m considering an anti-rock for my rear. Couldn’t get the 62 one to work with the 80 offset

TK 1 Racing universals with a couple mods. They are a through frame application.

 

[BurntToast]

TK 1 Racing universals with a couple mods. They are a through frame application.

Thanks! I’ll keep an eye on how you work it!

 

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Frame rail quote from the laser cutter came back and I order 5 sets.

Ordered the TR4050, Tcase adapter for the HF2A and bellhousing & clutch kit from Axis.

RCV axles ordered for the front and rear and on the way.

@orangefj45 is working on our diffs for our axles.

 

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Got the rails in Fusion 360 today.

 

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@orangefj45 Georg will be bringing up a few engine combos in a couple weeks. 1HDT variants...with H152 and H55F.

I'll have the LS3/LT1&4 with 4/6L80E and TR4050 combos on the shelf as well.

Will also make the option of a bare platform for the end users to set up their own for all other combos.