Would this JDM 2UZ-FE Supercharger kit work in an LC100? (2 Viewers)

[milchvango]

This Supercharger kit was meant for the JDM 4.7 liter LC200 its good for 460HP. Since its the same engine as an LC100 would it work in 03 onwards LC100?

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http://power-enterprise.co.jp/rotrex/rotrex_landcruser.html

 

[2000UZJ]

well, first off it's a turbo, and secondly... get the AVO turbo and have Slee Offroad install it.


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[Waggoner5]

It is actually a Rotrex supercharger. They are very efficient and well made using ceramic ball bearings for quiet use and low transfer of heat. That kit would most likely work if you could get the correct ECU programming for your year LC. Translate the page, email them and ask. I would be interested in pricing and ECU programming availability as well.

 

[2000UZJ]

http://power-enterprise.co.jp/rotrex/img_rotrex/lankit.jpg

that looks like a turbo


1,155,000 Japanese yen = 12,307,68 U.S. dollars

 

[packer]

looks belt driven, no?

 

[Topmounter]

For gas burning engines, does a turbo or supercharger do anything for you off-road (assuming you're not rally racing)? Or is it primarily for improved on-road performance, particularly when loaded?

It always seemed like adding a turbo would diminish overall reliability since if it fails and you don't shut the engine down immediately, bits and pieces go flying into the engine doing further (catastrophic) damage, where at least with a supercharger, if the unit fails, normally the motor will typically continue to function.

 

[fubuki]

Damn, I want that intercooler. The one I have is way too big.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

For gas burning engines, does a turbo or supercharger do anything for you off-road (assuming you're not rally racing)? Or is it primarily for improved on-road performance, particularly when loaded?

It always seemed like adding a turbo would diminish overall reliability since if it fails and you don't shut the engine down immediately, bits and pieces go flying into the engine doing further (catastrophic) damage, where at least with a supercharger, if the unit fails, normally the motor will typically continue to function.

Off-road, not much. The supercharger would have the advantage as it makes torque earlier than a turbo, but both require higher RPMs to push more air, which isn't something you'd be doing off-road. The SC on my 80 was nice for mountain passes, but the trade off of overheating issues wasn't worth it.

But, it's also not hurting anything off-road, so when you are back on the road you can get up and scoot.

 

[uzj100]

It amazes me at the market that is being missed. Think of all the 4.7 engines available to supercharge. GXs, 4Runners, Seq's, Tundra's and LCs. If the price was right, my LC would be supercharged.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Toyota tried that market and the vehicles that represent the lion's share of it (Tundra and Sequoia) were the ones with the problems. So, if Toyota wasn't able to make it work, I don't see anyone else thinking they can do better.

And, at $4k for a SC, the price isn't right for that many . . .

 

[Anthony.L]

that looks like a turbo

Some supercharges look very similar to turbochargers. In fact some SC unit actually use the exact same cold side as a turbo. The key is to look at the hot side, does it mount to an exhaust manifold (turbo) or is it belt driven (SC). The one in the Japanese link above is a perfect example of that. Note the mounting bracket, pulley, and belt included in the pics that tells you it's a supercharger.

For offroad, especially rock crawling, I personally think a SC would be WAY more beneficial than a turbo. The SC makes power and torque lower in the RPM range vs. a turbo that has "spool-up" delay. Of course it all depends on the turbo used, smaller turbo means less delay. I had a VW GTI with a 1.8 turbo engine and it spooled up at 2k RPM.

P.S. I've owned several turbo and supercharged sports cars. I still have a Lancer Evolution IX MR sitting in my garage I need to sell, been collecting dust for 2 years.

 

[Topmounter]

I would think that on off-road turbo would be tuned to kick in at lower RPM's, since you really don't spend much, if any, time in the upper RPM's off-road... basically tuned like the first turbo in a twin turbo sports car.

 

[pman]

I would think that on off-road turbo would be tuned to kick in at lower RPM's, since you really don't spend much, if any, time in the upper RPM's off-road... basically tuned like the first turbo in a twin turbo sports car.

So a small turbo??

 

[Anthony.L]

I would think that on off-road turbo would be tuned to kick in at lower RPM's, since you really don't spend much, if any, time in the upper RPM's off-road... basically tuned like the first turbo in a twin turbo sports car.

When the turbo "kicks in" is not something that is tuned in software or done by a mechanical switch. It's the result of the physical size of the turbo. This is due to the amount of exhaust thrust is required to bring the turbo to an RPM that starts to create boost.

Small turbo = faster spool up, but less power
Larger turbo = slower spool up, but more power

Twin or sequential turbos have been used to try and overcome the disadvantages by giving your faster spool up as well as good power.

 

[pman]

Twin or sequential turbos have been used to try and overcome the disadvantages by giving your faster spool up as well as good power.

OR manufacturers could be intelligent like Porsche and use turbos with VTG

1LoudLX should know all about VTG....lol

Sequential turbos work really well, and seem to be easier to engineer. The cool thing about them is you can hear and feel when it switches from the small turbo to the big one.

 

[bdyer]

Does anyone know how to get one

 

[campoj2]

I have driven turbo and supercharged vehicles. If you drive on the autobahn a turbo is what you most likely what you want, good mid and top end performance. As well all know, not the best out of the hole performance, although they have gotten much better over the years.

The supercharger that is on my 100 is nice. Merging into traffic, towing and passing (with a fully load vehicle) is really a no-brainer. I have heard that the reason why that "they" stop producing superchargers for the 4.7L was that the Tundras and non-forged engine block vehicles were putting rods through the block. This could be true or just a bunch of horse crap. I have never read it, only word of mouth.

Driving a large SUV and with the type of driving I do, the supercharger is right choice. I know Slee had that AVO system on one of his rigs and he could probably give you a doctorate level dissertation on the performance of that system. Finding a supercharger for the 4.7 is very difficult, turbos are more plentiful and you will have better tech support.

Good luck.

 

[pman]

I have heard that the reason why that "they" stop producing superchargers for the 4.7L was that the Tundras and non-forged engine block vehicles were putting rods through the block. This could be true or just a bunch of horse crap. I have never read it, only word of mouth.

I saw some pictures of Tundra 2UZ that sent a connecting rod through the bottom of the engine due to a S/C. It was a long time ago though, they were still making the S/C when i saw the pictures, Ill see if i can find the site that had them.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

It's true. If there had been a way to ensure that they were only installed on the LC motor, they may have still been sold.

 

[imprtazn4]

that looks like a centrifical supercharger, their ok but Id rather have a roots or screw type supercharger since they develope more bottom end power which would be useful for offroading or towing. sucks that TRD doesn't offer a supercharger anymore for the 2uzfe.