Worm Gear Winch (vs others?) (1 Viewer)

[daveIT]

So I searched for worm gear winch and it only brought up 14 results. Would someone explain the differences between them and something like a Warn 8274? I'm not very familiar with winches at all, but I'd like to learn. All I really know is that it is slower. Pros/cons? Thanks.

 

[Mark W]

An 8274 is an example of spur drive. a low profile winch like an M8000 is a planetary drive. A Ramsey Rep8000 is IIRC a worm drive.

These are just different configurations of the gears and drives.

The spur drive is the most efficient.

A worm drive is the least efficient.

Worm drive is usually the stoutest design. It is also self braking. Spur and planetary are not. Most (if not all) PTO winches are worm drive since power is not a concern and stoutness is.

Planetary is the most compact.

Mark...

 

[Josie'sLandCruiser]

Hi All:

The Ramsey RE Series of electric winches are worm-drives (the REP Series is plantary.)

Like MarkW wrote, the worm gear electric winches are very strong. Also slow and heavy. A worm-drive 10 or 12K rated winch would be a good choice for extracting a heavily-load pick-up or wagon from the mud or snow.

Regards,

Alan

 

[daveIT]

I'm a winch noob. Can you explain the self braking? I like strong stuff, which was why the worm drive caught my eye. In winching, what's the advantage of quicker winching? Maybe if you are stuck in water or a bunch of tree-hugging liberals are bearing down on your position? It seems like winching isn't something you should rush.

Are they a lot heavier or harder to mount? They are electrical? I've seen some winches that are hydraulic...

Saying a worm drive one is slower...what's a real world example? 5 mins vs 1 min to winch so many feet or something? I don't see myself getting stuck often or needing to use the winch that often, but if I bury it to the axles I want something to pull the 'ol FJ60 out.

Thanks for the replys!

 

[Pin_Head]

I'm a winch noob. Can you explain the self braking? !

The angle of the worm teeth on the dru, gear is so steep that the worm will not turn with the power off even with a full load on the drum.

 

[Mark W]

I'm a winch noob. Can you explain the self braking? I like strong stuff, which was why the worm drive caught my eye. In winching, what's the advantage of quicker winching? Maybe if you are stuck in water or a bunch of tree-hugging liberals are bearing down on your position? It seems like winching isn't something you should rush.

Are they a lot heavier or harder to mount? They are electrical? I've seen some winches that are hydraulic...

Saying a worm drive one is slower...what's a real world example? 5 mins vs 1 min to winch so many feet or something? I don't see myself getting stuck often or needing to use the winch that often, but if I bury it to the axles I want something to pull the 'ol FJ60 out.

Thanks for the replys!

Self braking means that the winch will only turn when power is applied. no matter how much load is on the line it can not pull out. A worm drive can not be turned from the output end, only the input end. Planetary and spur drive winches have brake built into them to compensate for this. The worm drive winch is simpler because of this.


No matter what style of winch or how it is powered, if it is correctly rated to pull "x" load, it will pull it.

There are times (most) when a faster line speed is an advantage. There are (fewer) times when a slow speed is actually preferred (one of the things I like about PTO and Hydraulic winches is the variability of the line speed).

The line speed is no strictly dependent on the drive design of the winch. My Braden worm drive PTO is as fast as an 8274 for no load... and significantly faster under heavier loads. but I don't think I have ever used it running it at full speed.

A CCC electric planetary can be slower than death.

You have to look at more than just the type of drive design.



All three types of drives are found in electric winches. Hydro and PTO winches tend to be worm drive.


It sounds like you have just started researching winches. I would expect that you can find a lot of info out there that will be better organized and more complete than you will get from discussion here... hit Mud to fine tune and clarify the answers that you find in your search.


Mark...

 

[daveIT]

Thanks, Mark, great advice as usual...I'll keep on researching...