Hi all. Hope to get some advice please on a new to me 2008 LX570. I live in Central Oregon and spend alot of time skiing. So frequent trips on winter roads. We use blizzaks on our Subaru, so I'm familiar with the benefit of dedicated winter tires. Since the LX is new to me, I don't have any experience with how it handles wintery/icy conditions. Summer tire will be Toyo AT3 on Tundra wheels. If I ran dedicated winter tires I think I'd use studded hakkipalita's on the stock 20" wheels. Are the Toyo AT3's good enough on the LX in winter that the studded hakkipalita's are overkill?
Winter tires on an LX570?
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I have Blizzaks on my LX. I have been in some pretty nasty snow storm and never had an issue. Between the 4WD, weight, Locking Center Diff and the Blizzaks I was able to ger through everything. No experience with studded but deciding between Studded tires and AT/Non winter tires seems pretty extreme. Sounds like Blizzaks would be a good solution.
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Glad you like the blizzaks on your LX and thanks for the recommendation. I will be using the Toyo's for spring/summer/fall regardless. The question is to gain some real world experience with people who have used dedicated winter tires on an LX. How big a difference was it over an AT tire? The Toyo AT3 is mtn snowflake rated, how good are these in winter on an LX?
I have Yokohama Geolanders, they are ok in the cold/snow but it's a huge difference once I throw the Blizzaks on.
The Geolanders do not have the snowflake, so I am sure the AT3 handle better. I have driven AT tires with the snow flake (KO2) and did not like them when the temps dropped. I am a big advocate of dedicated winter tires, not just for snow but in cold temps, all seasons can get pretty hard and add to stopping distances. This is where winter tires really shine (in my opinion)
There are a ton of opinions on this but there is mine. I like dedicated winter tires, they are cheap insurance. Also, I have 18" LC rims on my LX.
The Geolanders do not have the snowflake, so I am sure the AT3 handle better. I have driven AT tires with the snow flake (KO2) and did not like them when the temps dropped. I am a big advocate of dedicated winter tires, not just for snow but in cold temps, all seasons can get pretty hard and add to stopping distances. This is where winter tires really shine (in my opinion)
There are a ton of opinions on this but there is mine. I like dedicated winter tires, they are cheap insurance. Also, I have 18" LC rims on my LX.
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Not an LX but run studded hakkas on both my 200s and love them
One time last year had one of the 200s with the Hakkas and the other with yoko Geolander GO15s (meets severe snow service criteria)
there is no comparison. The hakkas way outperformed
I live down a dirt road that is packed ice and snow for usually 4 months a year and have a place for skiing that is up a mountain dirt road that is usually packed snow. I went with studs because of that. You might be able to get away with just winter tires without studs depending on your conditions.
good luck
John
One time last year had one of the 200s with the Hakkas and the other with yoko Geolander GO15s (meets severe snow service criteria)
there is no comparison. The hakkas way outperformed
I live down a dirt road that is packed ice and snow for usually 4 months a year and have a place for skiing that is up a mountain dirt road that is usually packed snow. I went with studs because of that. You might be able to get away with just winter tires without studs depending on your conditions.
good luck
John
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Super helpful, thankyou!
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Great info, thankyou. I am looking at 275/60 R20 which is available (studded) in the 9 SUV and the Nordman 7 SUV. Which Hakka due you use?
Here in Idaho we run a dedicated winter tire on our 200. The KO2s are scary on packed snow and ice. I went with the Haaka R3 SUV. They are excellent.
We run studded Hakka 9s on 20” Tundra wheels in Alaska. They’re phenomenal in all sorts of winter conditions. Drove from AK to IL in the dead of winter at 80mph on the Dalton in temperatures ranging from -40F to 60F.
I run non studded Nokian hakkas on my LX in winter. They're amazing.
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I ran BFG KO2 for 2 winters in my 08 LX before moving to Blizzaks. I found the difference noticeable for sure. On my 18LX I moved to AT3s this spring, but will be putting on Blizzaks for the winter.
I run AT3s year round in the CO mountains on my 200. They are a very good winter tire. Not quite as good as snow tires, but good enough that I don't feel like I need to swap them out.
Completely depends on your winter weather. I run AT3s year round in the CO mountains without issue. They do great in powder and packed snow. We don't get a lot of ice, though. If you get lots of ice, you need dedicated snows (does anyone use studded snows anymore?).
I’m a big fan of good ATs in deep snow, especially when not on paved roads. But there’s no comparison between the best AT and a quality Winter tire in any type of snow on the highway.
Do an emergency braking or swerving test between any AT and a Blizzack or Hakka tire and the difference will be plain as day.
I'm familiar with snows. I run them on my Audi in the winter. I'm telling you the AT3s are not that far behind.
