Winch to Fairlead Angles?

[DirtyLittleSecret]

So, after spiffing up the new ARB bumper, and realizing that it is intended for "modified" roller fairleads I said screw it, and went to go get some different bolts to run my new aluminum hawse fairlead.

Now, I'm just wondering about the "angle" the line takes from the drum to the fairlead, and whether I really do need to go with a delrin roller fairlead instead?

I figure I'm good to go, but also figured "what the H"...perhaps its never been discussed (didnt find any under search).

A little pic (loosly wound for now):

...and here's a pink flamingo...cause I've never used one before.

 

[D'Animal]

Did you check the WARN website?

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

Was actually looking at it a few minutes ago. Didnt find anything.

 

[D'Animal]

I am the safety and education officer for one of the clubs I'm in.

I found that WARN does recomend using the synthetic line on thier winches in one article, but they sell it.

 

[hatman406080]

t-max 10,000 outback with viking delrin roller

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

I am the safety and education officer for one of the clubs I'm in.

I found that WARN does recomend using the synthetic line on thier winches in one article, but they sell it.

Well, yeah that they do. They also sell thier 9000 "special" with synthetic line, and the older steel roller fairlead.
What I'm concerned with is the angles from the winch spool to the aluminum fairlead. Seems as though it will cause chaffing when let out. I know that this is the job of the fairlead, but shouldnt the line optimally be going through the fairlead (& not touching) when in a straight line of pull?
I know in some sports this is a general rule, but dont know about this particulare application.

BTW: Hatman, yeah I'm now eyeing the Vik, but at well over $120 I'm nixing that option. I've seen delrin mess up some pretty expensive lines while sailing.

 

[sandcruiser]

there are some hawse fairleads with offset bolt patterns, I think that sky off road has one on their site

seems that they should work better on the ARB winch bumper.

on mine the fairlead did start to show some friction rubbing along the top.... but only on hard pulls from the bottom of the drum. Still... I would prefer the offset hawse if I were putting a winch back on a 60 w/ ARB

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

there are some hawse fairleads with offset bolt patterns, I think that sky off road has one on their site

seems that they should work better on the ARB winch bumper.

on mine the fairlead did start to show some friction rubbing along the top.... but only on hard pulls from the bottom of the drum. Still... I would prefer the offset hawse if I were putting a winch back on a 60 w/ ARB

Which Sky off road? Found about 8 of them with Google! I might just live with what I've got for now, and see how it goes...

 

[sandcruiser]

sky-manufacturing.com
but I just looked, and didn't see the fairlead that I thought I saw before.

but try this:
OKoffroad.com Winch Accessories - Aluminum Hawse Fairlead - winch rope compatible

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

Awesome SC. Thanks for the link. Now we gotta make this the "correct your ARB bumper winchline angle" thread.
I'll try to find some additional alternatives soon, but that looks like a prize contender.

 

[sandcruiser]

there are some other threads that include the info but I'm too lazy to look 'em up
Still haven't seen a UHMW plastic hawse with the offset bolts, but there must be one out there somewhere.
after running the plastic one on the 60, I might go to an AL instead- the plastic did melt down a little in one spot. But that could have been on account of the bad angle....

 

[hatman406080]

BTW: Hatman, yeah I'm now eyeing the Vik, but at well over $120 I'm nixing that option. I've seen delrin mess up some pretty expensive lines while sailing.

i did pay $70.-viking delrin from GOUROCK 704 kickerville rd.ferndale,wa98248

Well, I've been using 4 times, pulled a couple Tundras, never had problem with it.

 

[DirtyLittleSecret]

Ordered from Spidertrax $39.95: AFL-004

I dont doubt the delrin roller fairlead is good, but I'd rather stick with a lower cost alternative. BTW: that's just for the rollers right? Still need the fairlead, and that pushes it over $100. I would've loved to keep with a roller system (I like the look/roller features), but with synth lines I've seen them get gummy with spray, and grit. Still, it depends on thier mix too I guess.
Thanks for helping me out guys!

 

[brownbear]

I am the safety and education officer for one of the clubs I'm in.

I found that WARN does recomend using the synthetic line on thier winches in one article, but they sell it.

personally I don't feel the synthetic rope is a safety issue for warn, more of a longevity of their winch issue. The synthetic won't carry away the same amount of heat.

But for the odd pull here and there, I doubt heat would be an ussue....MY op only....