who's NOT running BFGs or MT/R's??

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2badfjs said:
http://www.high-tec-retreading.com/sizes.html

check these guys out...

kuhmo is the premier tire in japan.

can't go wrong with dunlop or bridgestone.....
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Kumho is not Japanese brand but Korean brand which is Asiana airline's child company.
There are two major tire brand in Korea. Hankook and Kumho.
But Koreans prefer Hankook than kumho.
I don't know about price in USA but Hankook is somemore expensive thank Kumho in Korea.
I'm using Hankook tire also :)
 
tirerack.com has very good deals on Kuhmo these days, like $132 for 35x12.5x15. Same tread pattern as BFG MT if I remember correctly, but I have heard they are even stickier but still wear just as well. I would not stress to much about 33x10.5 versus 12.5 and these days prefer wider and I am most the most part a "tall and skinny" kind of guy... For example I'd love some 34 x 10.5 or 11.5 if someone made em...
 
Doc said:
Why can't you just unlock the hubs and get 2-low?
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Because you have to get out for that, and I'm lazy. :)

It's super convenient, especially on rocks. In dirt, it's probably pretty useless. Coming up around a switchback, 4lo is a PITA due to all the bucking and how hard it is to steer. Push the lever up to 2lo, and crawl right around the corner. Try turning your truck around 180 degrees in 4lo on pavement and you'll see what I mean. :D

Take the t-case shifter boots off, and have a look at the piece of stamped metal that prevents the t-case shifter from moving over into 2-lo. A few seconds with an angle grinder will take care of it, or you can do what my truck's PO did and just take off the metal piece entirely. You can probably also get the piece off from under the truck. I think it's only held on with two or three bolts.

Here is the classic instruction on how to do it, and explains the difference between notching and removing the plate.
 
Bought the Kelly Safari 33x9.5x15 and find they perform well. I bought them used and probably never would have looke dat them otherwise but teh MSR is a good tire. They are not super swampers but for half the money tehy have taken me throught about a mountian trail that strated with dry gravel then to a muddy washboard and larger rocks to about 2 feet of snow and back down again with complete confidence. I was locked up front and they pulled me out of anything problematic. If I were buying new and my rig needed other attention such as basics like the alternator or distributor I would not hesitate to go for the Kellys and also make more reliable.

Super Swampstone Irok MT/KO's don't grip crap in the driveway! And maybe just maybe skill is involved in running a trail more than which MT you're running.
 
Great Feedback!

Thanks for all your feedback and keep it comin'!

Follow-up question:
Since there aren't alot of choices in the 33x10.5 and more in the 33x12.5 (15 in' rims), should I be worried about rubbing with the 12.5 with about 2" lift? And would they fit on 15x8's?

Thanks again,

Cardinal FJ60 (oh boy! I get to change my signature!)
 
CardinalFJ60 said:
Thanks for all your feedback and keep it comin'!

Follow-up question:
Since there aren't alot of choices in the 33x10.5 and more in the 33x12.5 (15 in' rims), should I be worried about rubbing with the 12.5 with about 2" lift? And would they fit on 15x8's?

Thanks again,

Cardinal FJ60 (oh boy! I get to change my signature!)
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you should have no prob....
 
I love the Swamper 34X10.50 LTB. My only concern is they are bias and not sure if I would like those on my FJ60, but at the same time it is not a DD anymore. I have bias ply on my old F350, and that thing flat spots pretty good after sitting for a week.
If I could find a set of affordable factory "split" wheels for a Cruiser I would run the 34X10.50R16 LTBs. Neat-O!

Jason
 
When i got em i thought they looked good and road good...then i heard a bunch of talk about how crappy they where and was worried after some offroading...i dig em. they are just to small. i have a set of mud rovers from dunlop..they have thin side walls but i was running 12psi in tellico and had the tire folded all the way to the rim a bunch of times....came out with one tare...they impressed me rather well...they are not a bad all around tire....but i want somthing bigger than 35s so they gotta go.
 
Don't mean to Hijack, but it's interesting to hear your views on tyres as opposed to what we have in Aus, as well as prices. In terms of a straight MT, Coopers are the most expensive and have a good reputation. Following that are the BFG and GY MTR's. The BFG was the standard but seems to have lost a lot of market share to the MTR. After that the Bridgestone MT and Pro comps are still expensive and somewhat popular. Then there are the budget tyres - Hankook, Kumho. And then there are the dirt cheap tyres - Sumitomo, Savero.
 
The Real Deal

For those of you who are Goodyear/BFG diehards...the one's who like a "mud tire" but really just another all terrain tire...yet still wonder why they can't dig in the mud, here's the sleeper you been lookin for : SSRs! Super Swamper makes a "SPECIALIZED" radial MUD TIRE...that's right, we're still talking big cleats and sharp edges...that has siping for on road traction, yet allowing dirt/mud diggin like crazy. Now don't get all defensive...this tire is exceptionally different from the TSL Radial. For starters, much tougher sidewall. Tired of BFG's gettin punctured like water balloons? And believe it or not, the sidewall design allows enhanced movement in ruts and such. My first set of Mud's were 33X12.50 SSRs...i've had boggers, All Terrains, BFGs, and everything in between since. Now, i ride on 37X12.50 SSRs...because they are one of the best.
Did i mention this tire is rated 40,000 mile plus? Not a lie...research it. They make a 31" size too, even for those not fortunate enough to have their ride 48" off the ground. Now don't put words into my mouth, they don't dig like a bogger...nor do they float on sand like a mickey thompson...and yes, a MTR is goign to be better on road...but for all around, and BEST OFFROAD resultts considered, the SSR is #1.
And if you're still interested in small sizes, the Swamper LTB is the next best thing. Tough, Siped, Scooped, Lugged...whatever it can be, it is. Plus it comes in conveniant small truck sizes...like a 34X10.50...
Until someone takes some nitto mud graplers offroad or a pair of MT Baja Claws, Swampers will remain ahead of the game.
CHAD
 
Swamper LTB's

I have had my set of 34x10.5's for about 1500 miles and love them. My rig is not a DD anymore so I am not worried about the milage I will get out of them. Just had them out this weekend for their first real wheeling experience and they
were great. My next set will be these again.
 
PolkLandbruiser said:
For those of you who are Goodyear/BFG diehards...the one's who like a "mud tire" but really just another all terrain tire...yet still wonder why they can't dig in the mud, here's the sleeper you been lookin for : SSRs! Super Swamper makes a "SPECIALIZED" radial MUD TIRE...that's right, we're still talking big cleats and sharp edges...that has siping for on road traction, yet allowing dirt/mud diggin like crazy. Now don't get all defensive...this tire is exceptionally different from the TSL Radial. For starters, much tougher sidewall. Tired of BFG's gettin punctured like water balloons? And believe it or not, the sidewall design allows enhanced movement in ruts and such. My first set of Mud's were 33X12.50 SSRs...i've had boggers, All Terrains, BFGs, and everything in between since. Now, i ride on 37X12.50 SSRs...because they are one of the best.
Did i mention this tire is rated 40,000 mile plus? Not a lie...research it. They make a 31" size too, even for those not fortunate enough to have their ride 48" off the ground. Now don't put words into my mouth, they don't dig like a bogger...nor do they float on sand like a mickey thompson...and yes, a MTR is goign to be better on road...but for all around, and BEST OFFROAD resultts considered, the SSR is #1.
And if you're still interested in small sizes, the Swamper LTB is the next best thing. Tough, Siped, Scooped, Lugged...whatever it can be, it is. Plus it comes in conveniant small truck sizes...like a 34X10.50...
Until someone takes some nitto mud graplers offroad or a pair of MT Baja Claws, Swampers will remain ahead of the game.
CHAD
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lol,
The SSR is an adequate road tire and not that great off road.
the sidewall is not as strong as a radial or bias TSL. Additionally, the tread tends to seperate when you drive over a sharp rock with the tires aired down.

Are they a good tire?? For a dual purpose rig then they are not bad. But they are not gods gift to wheelin.


What tire you want all depends on how you plan to wheel your rig, how much street time it will see and what amount of miles you expect to get out of the tire.

Answer those questions and we can give you a much better idea of which tire fits your needs.
 
The same scale here ..

BFG most expensive and very good reputations .. MTR are non-existent tires here, Bridgetone are good tires and for a medium budget. Also we have Geolandar, Michellin, Hancook, Kumho ( good ones .. ) General, Toyo, and Yokohama ( Super Digger MT, super agresive thread pathern )

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HZJ60 Guy said:
I wish they made that tire in a 37"!!!
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I thought tha thouse ones are very good if they are made it in 38" X 13.5 R15 :D with 10" wheels .. wouu ! fantastic.
 
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Hi Guys, I'm a newbie from New Zealand and I find this thread interesting. I am running 33x12.5x15 Kumho Venture 834 tyres on my hj61 and find them great as an all round tyre. Not noisy, $1200 NZD for 4, wear really well, great in mud. Sure there are better mud tyres around but these do not suit daily driving. Most of the terrain our club encounters is clay mud type tracks with soupy bog holes. Most competition trucks in the national series run 35" Kumho powerguard MT's, Swampers or Mickey thompson Baja Claws. Club road trucks seem to stick with BFG MT's or Kumho 834's or General Grabber MT's. There are a few hankook MT and Savero users as well. These are the cheaper type tyres.

Thought you would be interested.

Jace
 
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