TLCA Who's Going to GSMTR?

[Capt. Jim]

This may be a good reason to camp in Crawford's. I'm still camping on the Tennessee side along the river.


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The USFS has added new regulations in the Cherokee NF (Tennessee side of OHV area).
Those of you planning on camping on the Tennessee side please take note, Drinking and possession of Alcohol Beverages is prohibited. The signs went up end of the week and they said they would issue warning tickets for two weeks then start issuing regular tickets.

The following is a copy of the order:


04/24/2006 13:24 FAX 4234763727 CHEROKEE NF LEI -» TELLICO @002/OC

ORDER NO. 301
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

Cherokee National Forest

Alcohol Beverages Restriction

Pursuant to 36 CFR, Section 261.50 (a) and (b), it is hereby ordered that the prohibitions
hereinafter set forth apply to the Tellico Ranger District, within the Cherokee National
Forest, shown on the attached map.

1. Possessing a beverage which is defined as an alcoholic beverage by State law.
261.58bb

Areas Affected By This Order

Young Branch Horse Campground Jake Best Campground
Walnut Grove Picnic Area North River Campground
McNabb Creek Group Campground Spivey Cove Campground
Dam Creek Campground & Picnic Area Pheasant Field Picnic Area
Tellico River Corridor Campgrounds Big Oak Cove Campground
Indian Boundary Recreation Area State Line Campground
Citico Campground #11 (Doublecamp) Bald River Falls Day Use Area
Cidco Campground # 13 (Warden Fields) Davis Branch Campground

The above-prohibited act is set forth in Title 36 C.FJBL Section 261,58.

Pursuant to 36 CFR, Section 261,50 (e), the following persons are exempt or areas
are exempt from this Order:

1. Persons with a special use permit specifically authorizing the otherwise
prohibited act or omission, issued by the District Ranger.

Executed in Cleveland, Tennessee, this twenty-fourth day of April 2006.

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H.THOMAS Speaks, JR
Forest Supervisor
Cherokee National Forest

ORDER EXPIRES FIVE YEARS FROM DATE OF SIGNATURE

Violation of the prohibition set forth above is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an
individual and $ 10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both. See
16U.S.C.551.18U.S.C.3559and357l.

 

[Bodean]

All I can say is I hope the paddy wagon is a big bus. If they start checking coolers... Yall be careful and at least keep it in a cup. See ya there.

Later,

 

[Capt. Jim]

I hear ya.........

 

[bkfj40]

sounds like they might as well close the TN side access all together...


next thing you know, Capt. Jim won't allow any beer on his boat


bk

 

[Capt. Jim]

Perhaps we can ask the Rangers for an exemption:

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Pursuant to 36 CFR, Section 261,50 (e), the following persons are exempt or areas
are exempt from this Order:

1. Persons with a special use permit specifically authorizing the otherwise
prohibited act or omission, issued by the District Ranger.

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Think I'll fill a maple syrup bottle or two with some good dark rum.........

 

[John Smith]

I also received the fateful email from Roger. I wonder if we rent out McKnabb would they give us an exemption for the week if we applied? I wonder what the fine is, they don't state that. This really sucks.

 

[lingo]

It looks like they are trying to push every one to Crawford's.

 

[Tym@work]

I'm going... may be backing the 40 off the trailer and working on it as soon as I get there, but I intend to get it there (hey, if I put the locker install off until I arrive it could be a tech session, heh). On another note, I was wondering if anyone else is going from central NC and when you're going.. I'm leaving sometime Monday (15th) and it's gonna be a long drive.

Tym

 

[76FJ40]

John,

Here's the bad news -

Violation of the prohibition set forth above is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an
individual and $ 10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both. See
16U.S.C.551.18U.S.C.3559and357l.

 

[John Smith]

John,

Here's the bad news -

Violation of the prohibition set forth above is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an
individual and $ 10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both. See
16U.S.C.551.18U.S.C.3559and357l.

Ouch!

 

[76FJ40]

I've searched the Cherokee NF site and Google and I can't find anything on a general alcohol ban. The only thing I've found applies to some of the "developed" campgrounds like McNabb Group Area and Spivey.

 

[John Smith]

Paging Roger, we need some clarification on the new alcohol policy.

 

[Capt. Jim]

I think this definately needs to be confirmed. I thought this was America, Land of the free.

 

[lingo]

I emailed Roger.

 

[Capt. Jim]

Just got off the phone with the ranger district and indeed confirmed it.

 

[DSLTOY]

Perhaps we can ask the Rangers for an exemption:

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Pursuant to 36 CFR, Section 261,50 (e), the following persons are exempt or areas
are exempt from this Order:

1. Persons with a special use permit specifically authorizing the otherwise
prohibited act or omission, issued by the District Ranger.

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Think I'll fill a maple syrup bottle or two with some good dark rum.........

A special use permit is what we have to have for the event, you must have insurance and apply at least 30 days in advance, and since this regulation is new no one knows what it will take to get an exemption.

 

[lowtideride]

Anyone have a spare drive shaft for an 81-84 fj60 lying around that they could bring with them...i am willing to bet lower 2 is gonna eat another driveshaft...

 

[John Smith]

Our group also contacted the Ranger who told us that the alcohol ban only pertains to certain sites and areas. The Ranger told us no alcohol at McNabb or Spivey Cove or in the picnic spots and certain other camping areas. If there is not a sign posted banning it then alcohol is allowed is my impression.

 

[stuck in GA]

No Al I don't have one, and I won't have my winch to haul you up the end of lower two again after another eaten driveshaft. I think all that pulling I did that day helped put my winch in the graveyard.

 

[CruisinGA]

Anyone have a spare drive shaft for an 81-84 fj60 lying around that they could bring with them...i am willing to bet lower 2 is gonna eat another driveshaft...

I have a spare front...

I assume you mean rear...


lower 2 has changed, I doubt you'll need one again. That driveshaft eating ledge isn't there anymore.

I made lower 2 about 2 months ago without much ado or damage...