What’s my lift

[drockws6]

I was wondering if someone could help me figure out the lift that a new to me 2015 land cruiser came with. It’s a little too much for me in the back and was looking at replacing it. I think it’s an ome lift with 724 in the back and 703 and I could find a part number on the shocks.

 

[turbo8]

Post some pictures. Also getting measurements from the center of the hub to the fender lip, this will let us know how much lift you have.

 

[drockws6]

Post some pictures. Also getting measurements from the center of the hub to the fender lip, this will let us know how much lift you have.

 

[drockws6]

23 in front 25 in back, so I’m guessing a 2 inch lift higher in the back. I’d like to probably just level it out at the front height

 

[linuxgod]

I can't see if you have a spare and/or jerry cans on the rear and if you have drawers/fridge or not but unless you've got all that and more (or you tow) 2724 is probably too much spring rate. 2721 is ideal for most setups.

 

[drockws6]

I can't see if you have a spare and/or jerry cans on the rear and if you have drawers/fridge or not but unless you've got all that and more (or you tow) 2724 is probably too much spring rate. 2721 is ideal for most setups.

I don’t have anything except an arb bumper. I wonder if the previous owner had something back there and took it out. The headlights are pointing down at night so they must have. Would the 2721 drop the back end? Is it worth it to just order a new kit or just replacement springs for the rear to level it?

 

[TimCFJ40]

Looks to me like it just needs more tire. But in all seriousness, I think you will be much happer with the 2721 springs in the rear from a ride perspective.

 

[bloc]

I don’t have anything except an arb bumper. I wonder if the previous owner had something back there and took it out. The headlights are pointing down at night so they must have. Would the 2721 drop the back end? Is it worth it to just order a new kit or just replacement springs for the rear to level it?

I’d start with a pair of 2721s. They’re not expensive and pretty easy to install, and will drop the rear about 2”.

 

[grinchy]

could always get a rear bumper, drawers, sliders, skids and a fridge. . . .

 

[linuxgod]

I don’t have anything except an arb bumper. I wonder if the previous owner had something back there and took it out. The headlights are pointing down at night so they must have. Would the 2721 drop the back end? Is it worth it to just order a new kit or just replacement springs for the rear to level it?

You should get the spring rates correct for the load first, then use leveling rings (spacers/trim packers) to level it if you so choose. I did not raise mine in the front but I tow and will lose a few inches when I hook up so it did not make sense for me.

Spring rate on the 2721 is progressive from 270#/in to 340#/in depending on the load - they get stiffer as you add weight. 2722 is 275#/in all the time. 2723 is 340#/in. And the 2724 you have is 400#/in IIRC.

I have the medium duty 220-880 Ironman springs, which are approximately the height/stiffness of the 2723 (though Ironman rates mine at 286#/in the specs look otherwise suspiciously like the 2723). For your build you would want the 0-660 coils (part TOY064B). I say this because with the 25% off sale the Ironman coils were half the cost of the OME)

Not the best shot for this but all I have handy... in this case there's a 75# dog and 100# cooler in the trunk, and 5 or 10 gallons of water on the back, and you can see the rear is still slightly taller than the front.

In fact, I'm only level (actually about 0.5" lower) when I add a trailer with a 900# tongue weight to the hitch (photo below isn't quite level).

 

[Markuson]

I was wondering if someone could help me figure out the lift that a new to me 2015 land cruiser came with. It’s a little too much for me in the back and was looking at replacing it. I think it’s an ome lift with 724 in the back and 703 and I could find a part number on the shocks.

Wow. 24’s in back are waaay too heavy for a nearly stock weight. I use 24’s but I’m extremely heavy at over 8000 pounds. 2721 in back should perform well for you.
I used 2721’s even with slider and drawers and it was fine.

 

[Fisher23]

What is the OEM fender to center of the axel measurements front and rear?

 

[drockws6]

You should get the spring rates correct for the load first, then use leveling rings (spacers/trim packers) to level it if you so choose. I did not raise mine in the front but I tow and will lose a few inches when I hook up so it did not make sense for me.

Spring rate on the 2721 is progressive from 270#/in to 340#/in depending on the load - they get stiffer as you add weight. 2722 is 275#/in all the time. 2723 is 340#/in. And the 2724 you have is 400#/in IIRC.

I have the medium duty 220-880 Ironman springs, which are approximately the height/stiffness of the 2723 (though Ironman rates mine at 286#/in the specs look otherwise suspiciously like the 2723). For your build you would want the 0-660 coils (part TOY064B). I say this because with the 25% off sale the Ironman coils were half the cost of the OME)

Not the best shot for this but all I have handy... in this case there's a 75# dog and 100# cooler in the trunk, and 5 or 10 gallons of water on the back, and you can see the rear is still slightly taller than the front.
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In fact, I'm only level (actually about 0.5" lower) when I add a trailer with a 900# tongue weight to the hitch (photo below isn't quite level)

You should get the spring rates correct for the load first, then use leveling rings (spacers/trim packers) to level it if you so choose. I did not raise mine in the front but I tow and will lose a few inches when I hook up so it did not make sense for me.

Spring rate on the 2721 is progressive from 270#/in to 340#/in depending on the load - they get stiffer as you add weight. 2722 is 275#/in all the time. 2723 is 340#/in. And the 2724 you have is 400#/in IIRC.

I have the medium duty 220-880 Ironman springs, which are approximately the height/stiffness of the 2723 (though Ironman rates mine at 286#/in the specs look otherwise suspiciously like the 2723). For your build you would want the 0-660 coils (part TOY064B). I say this because with the 25% off sale the Ironman coils were half the cost of the OME)

Not the best shot for this but all I have handy... in this case there's a 75# dog and 100# cooler in the trunk, and 5 or 10 gallons of water on the back, and you can see the rear is still slightly taller than the front.
View attachment 3112967

In fact, I'm only level (actually about 0.5" lower) when I add a trailer with a 900# tongue weight to the hitch (photo below isn't quite level).

View attachment 3112968

I really don’t have any plans for it yet, it just look weird for me as it stands right now. I have a duramax for towing if need be. There is part of me that actually just wants to go back to stock but I think 2 inches leveled will be a good choice for now. I haven’t even decided if I’m going to ditch the bumpers front and back. At this point is just cleaning up someone else’s mess. Thanks for the insight, I ordered the 2721’s earlier today and I’ll see how that looks.

 

[drockws6]

could always get a rear bumper, drawers, sliders, skids and a fridge. . . .

I’ll have the springs laying around if I ever do