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custyota

custyota

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I need your help. I'm trying to fiqure out what this 2f motor is worth. It came out of a 78' Fj40 from Cali. My dad gave me the cruiser and the engine was already taken out of it. I was told the engine was old and tired and need to be rebuilt.
My questions is what is it worth? Is any body interested in it?
Thanks
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What are you going to put in it's place? I'd love to take it off your hands, but my wife would not like a 2F and 2 1F's in my basement.... I've seen a bunch of different prices for 2F engines...
 
2F's go from a hundred bux as parts to 500 for used working motor. I bought two locally for around a hundred dollars each with a blown headgasket and minor scoring on the cyl walls.

Brian needs it for his 4F transplant :D
or you could part it piece by piece if they are working.
It may take a while, but youll learn alot about the 2F
 
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So I better off just keeping the engine in the garage as a dust ornament?

I can't deicde what I want to put in the 40. There are so many choices. What would you do?
 
If I had a good running 2F then I'd use it. If money wasn't an option then diesel all the way :cool:. You can also get a decent bang for your buc with a chevy v8.
 
What do you want to do with the rig? Is it going to be a daily driver, grocery getter, trail truck....????

Do you want to go through a tranny swap, t-case, or stay stock? Do you care about speed at all?

If it were me, I'd rebuild the 2F. I think the SBC has it's place for folks that turn a lot of miles, but my bone stock 2F on 'pane is everything I would ever want in the rocks. You just can't beat the powerband for crawling. However, if I cared a thing in the world about going in mud, drove it around town a lot, etc, I'd put a 383 stroker in there and go blow some people's minds at a stoplight.

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hmmm....

Guys I'd love to go diesel but that will cost a few bucks. I would like to use rig as a around town vehicle, not a daily driver and something I can take on trails (nothing crazy) I was thinking about keeping the 4sp and stock transfer and dropping a chevy 350. I talked to guy the other day and he said I should buy a late 80's or early 90's blazer or truck and take the engine, tranny, transfer and axles and put it under the 40.

I just want something that works. Do you know of any shops in nc that do engine conversions? Or a expereinced home mechanic that wants to make some $? Thanks
 
Do the conversion yourself. Dirt simple (unless you are throwing electronics in there but still not that hard)

Go with a 350 for now just because that is the most plentiful engine ever built.

If you want EFI find a low mileage 5.3 vortec and rock it.
 
If you decide to get rid of the 2F, let me know. I think I'd rather spend the time and money to rebuild it rather than the 1F I have now. Do you know how bad was it running before it was pulled?
 
I wouldn't say it's "dirt simple", at least not to most shadetree mechanics. Based on what you have described you want to do with the vehicle, I'd suggest a rebuild on the 2F. Granted, it may cost you around $1,800.00 or so, but these motors are great when they are fresh. You'll have close to that in a 350 swap if you do it right, especially if you pay someone to do it for you - that kind of work doesn't generally come cheap. Most folks wind up having to do driveshaft work, wiring, motor mounts, and much more. The advantages are there for sure: cheap plentiful parts, powerful, lighter, etc. But don't think it's all rainbows and unicorns either. Just search on SBC swap, or 350 swap in the 40 section and you'll have endless information to sort through and make an informed decision. That's what I did when I was considering a swap and decided my money was much better spent elsewhere.

One really good option would be to try and find a good running 2F to drop in and go. I've seen plenty for sale in the $500 range. Just post up in the "wanted" section and see what's out there. You have a leg up by having the motor you do now in that you should have distributor, carb, accessories that sometimes aren't included in a sale. I'm not a Toyota purist as a lot of folks are, but the SBC doesn't come without issues of it's own, so ultimately, this would be the simplest turnkey solution IMO.

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Thanks

Thanks for the ideas. I think rebuilding the 2f will be the easiest and cheapest route to go. I liked the idea about buying a running 2f and using it. Anybody have one? I will also be looking for drive shafts, a shifter for a 4 spd, among other things. I currently have a few advance adapters parts that I will be getting rid of. One of them is the ranger torque spliter i think that is worth some $$ I also have a cross member mount that list for $167. Let me know if any body needs any of this stuff. Thanks
 
A lot of folks have bought a used 500 +/_ motor to run while they rebuild a 2f and 12 years later are still rocking the temporary unit.

Is there a known problem with the 2F? I mean, is there a chance you could put it on a stand and try to get it running after a good inspection?

NOTHING wrong with having extra parts around.....ask brian. J/k but i was working on my 2F yesterday and burnt the coil up but box o parts had one waiting and it was a relief to not be forced to quit while It seemed progress was imminent :D

I had no motor knowledge whatsoever and attempted the rebuild anyways. I say go for it. I have about 1100 in all the parts, the machine work, paint, belts, lube and did all possible labor myself taking my time (and lots o pics) I did add a few non necessaries (3fe manifolds) along the way so you could keep it under or around a grand for a good rebuild as long as you dont want/need Cam/Crank work or pistons etc. BTW all your internals will fit in a 4x4 workspace and although it will never be fast you can make it perty.

(I also borrowed my motor stand and hoist....thanks guys)

Course its not on the road yet but it does start :hillbilly:

At least you wont have to deflate your tires and make some ramps for your motor hoist to clear the bumper :doh:

or as well you could have it all done for you. Jeff at Toyz Unlimited just did a 2F rebuild and clutch replacement for around 2500 just for comparison. This option is much easier on your back though !

Whats the application for the ranger torque splitter?
similar to the Ranger overdrive unit?
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I really don't know if there is a problem with the 2f. I was told it was tired and needed to be rebuilt. How do I put it on a stand and start it? I'm not mech inclined. U want to show me?

I really don't know what the ranger thing is. My dad bought it. It says ranger III on the side. Its never been used. I can bring it to the veterans event at the end of the month if you want to look at it. Jason you want to rebuld my 2f? :clap:

I look forward to meeting everyone thanks for the help.
 
bwaha..... read my other thread.

should read Do you want Jason to rebuild your motor ?
 
custyota said:
I really don't know if there is a problem with the 2f. I was told it was tired and needed to be rebuilt. How do I put it on a stand and start it? I'm not mech inclined. U want to show me?

I really don't know what the ranger thing is. My dad bought it. It says ranger III on the side. Its never been used. I can bring it to the veterans event at the end of the month if you want to look at it. Jason you want to rebuld my 2f? :clap:

I look forward to meeting everyone thanks for the help.
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Ranger III???? Didn't see it in the pictures or explained on here but I'm guessing Overdrive.
 
Without the dizzy and a compression test your motor is worth basically 100 dollars. Stripped for all the parts it might net you $500. 78 still had the domed pistons and while it was a good motor it's not what someone who is looking to buy a 2f would buy.

If you have the igniter with the dizzy it's worth 150. Assuming it still has the electronic dizzy.
Carb maybe 50-100 for a cal spec carb.
manifold 50
head assuming it's not cracked and your willing to wait for the right person 50
Other than that there are Cal spec emmissions parts that are probably worth some money to the right person.

In all honesty. I'd have it rebuilt, desmogged with a new exhaust manifold (no need for that nuclear reactor on it now), drop it in and run another 200k on it without any mods.
 
ranger III

My dad bought the ranger 3 to use with his 350 conversion. Im trying to find more information about it.

Im going to rebuild the 2f and take off all the smog stuff.

Thanks for the help. Now i will save up the funds to do so.

Is there a way to start engine while its not in the 40?
 
Yes. Put the bell housing, flywheel and starter back on. Use a set of jumper cables to engage the starter. You only need to check compression. Nothing more. Don't start it. Take one plug out at a time and make sure you have something stuck down in the carb to hold it open while doing this. Get a freind to hold the motor for you. You only need to turn the motor over a few revolutions to check compression. Anything under 110 and I'd be doing a rebuild.
 
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