V10 Diesel conversion

[Waggoner5]

Anyone here on the board have any experience with Volkswagon/Audi electrical. I am thinking of a V10 diesel conversion if it isn't cost prohibitive. I owned a Toureg with this powerplant and it was awesome. I can build the adapter just more curious about wiring harness stuff. It would make a great wagon engine.

 

[tucker74]

This guy put a late model Audi 6 in a 40, so I'm sure it can be done with enough money and determination. Where you going to get one? I thought they were pretty rare even in the Toureg ...

Tucker

 

[Waggoner5]

Overseas.

 

[CruisinGA]

howabout standalone, like megasquirt, etc.

 

[Isotel]

dont know about the electronics, but the v-10 tdi is a SWEET powerplant..

megasquirt may be a good idea..

 

[Radd Cruisers]

WOW, wet dream engine, that thing would rock.......

 

[meluhha]

If anyone can find one, then install it and make it work, it is Gary!!

Are you just getting bored?

Matt

 

[Waggoner5]

Not bored, but wanting diesel power in my white 62 to take the place of the 502 and this diesel seems the way to go. It makes significant power, and is small in size so the intercooler wouldn't be much of an issue. I don't know about the elctronics end of things hence the post.

 

[Mace]

lol

Grogan and I were talking about your toureg last night.

that motor would spank in the 60..

What tranny would you use?

 

[Waggoner5]

4L80E that is behind the 502. It has a stand alone ECU, so it would make things easy.

 

[Mace]

waggy drags gonna be an option again??

 

[Waggoner5]

Not sure about that one. We'll see.

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

Damn, with your retro 80 post I was really hoping to see this thing in an 80.

 

[ridgerunner]

If you're interested in that route, Minipigg told me once of an industrial EU spec harness that converted everything to a mechanical system. Super simple and reliable. He should have more info.

 

[Gumby]

It'd be cool. Mega expensive. You won't be able to get fuel in 5 states and good luck finding anyone to fix it if it goes wrong. I doubt you'll be able to find a VW shop that has a tech that can. How long did they import the thing? Less than two years I think and then only sold 450 of them. Tough to get parts or expertise if there's a problem. I just looked in my Alldata to check on prices for parts. No listings for most any parts. That's not a good sign. Good technical pages. If you decide to, feel free to PM me and I'll send em to you.


It'd be like putting an Enzo motor in there. It's possible, but practical?

 

[Waggoner5]

The thing is that there are tons of them in Europe and getting one is not really that expensive. I loved mine and had 0 issues. The other great thing is that they are very reliable and being that they are back for sale again here in the States the parts and service industry should come around. Which States don't sell diesel?

 

[Gumby]

Cali and some east coast states are going ultra low sulfur. Will the V10 be OK on 15ppm sulfur content?

I see that VW is bringing them back with some changes that will allow them to meet the new standards.

 

[kirk]

Cali and some east coast states are going ultra low sulfur. Will the V10 be OK on 15ppm sulfur content?

The 15ppm will need kinda a "sulfur substitute" to give the fuel lubricity to prevent the eating of seals. A very bright old friend of mine(wise like Yoda) told me that the challenge with the removal of sulfur from fuel is the protection of the sealing components in the injection system. He told me the what happend to big diesels when the 500ppm mandate hit in the early 90s. His recommendation to the truckers having problems was a quart of tranny fluid in each tank at each fill up. Though other additives are available tis one is cheap simple and easy to find anywhere.

As far as the v10 Gary, I see your vision. It would be a great achievement in automotive swap history and would guarantee a a spot in the conversion hall of fame. Buy a factory service manual to study the wiring first!


As far as the untimate in my opinion this is the hands down with outta doubt engine that I am searchin and waiting on right now. I will have on of these soon and plan to pull my V8 from the 80 or build a evil twin diesel. It is called the VT275 diesel from navistar. its a powerstroke less 2 cylinders made for international and ford box trucks its light powerful and compact. A international test engineer told me 300hp 600lb/ft chips just like the powerstroke can be easily made and the engine has run awesome at these levels.

Have a fun researcing, thats the most exciting part for me.

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/engine/vt275detail.asp

Configuration V6

Displacement 275 cu in (4.5 L)

Bore and Stroke 3.74 in x 4.134 in (95 mm x 105 mm)

Compression Ratio 18.0:1

Aspiration Turbocharged air-to-air intercooled

Governed Speed 3000 RPM

Combustion System Direct Injection

Total Engine Weight [dry] 790 lb (358 kg)


Rated HP 200 (149 kW)

Rated RPM 2700

Gov. Spd. RPM 3000

Peak Torque 440 lb-ft (597 N.m)

Peak Torque RPM 1800

Clutch Engagement Torque @ 800 RPM 210 lb-ft (285 N.m)

 

[Waggoner5]

From what I have been told, the revised V10 is 50 state legal and will run on the future spec of diesel. I put the word out today to try to find one.
G

 

[Waggoner5]

Cali and some east coast states are going ultra low sulfur. Will the V10 be OK on 15ppm sulfur content?

The 15ppm will need kinda a "sulfur substitute" to give the fuel lubricity to prevent the eating of seals. A very bright old friend of mine(wise like Yoda) told me that the challenge with the removal of sulfur from fuel is the protection of the sealing components in the injection system. He told me the what happend to big diesels when the 500ppm mandate hit in the early 90s. His recommendation to the truckers having problems was a quart of tranny fluid in each tank at each fill up. Though other additives are available tis one is cheap simple and easy to find anywhere.

As far as the v10 Gary, I see your vision. It would be a great achievement in automotive swap history and would guarantee a a spot in the conversion hall of fame. Buy a factory service manual to study the wiring first!


As far as the untimate in my opinion this is the hands down with outta doubt engine that I am searchin and waiting on right now. I will have on of these soon and plan to pull my V8 from the 80 or build a evil twin diesel. It is called the VT275 diesel from navistar. its a powerstroke less 2 cylinders made for international and ford box trucks its light powerful and compact. A international test engineer told me 300hp 600lb/ft chips just like the powerstroke can be easily made and the engine has run awesome at these levels.

Have a fun researcing, thats the most exciting part for me.

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/engine/vt275detail.asp

Configuration V6

Displacement 275 cu in (4.5 L)

Bore and Stroke 3.74 in x 4.134 in (95 mm x 105 mm)

Compression Ratio 18.0:1

Aspiration Turbocharged air-to-air intercooled

Governed Speed 3000 RPM

Combustion System Direct Injection

Total Engine Weight [dry] 790 lb (358 kg)


Rated HP 200 (149 kW)

Rated RPM 2700

Gov. Spd. RPM 3000

Peak Torque 440 lb-ft (597 N.m)

Peak Torque RPM 1800

Clutch Engagement Torque @ 800 RPM 210 lb-ft (285 N.m)

That sounds like a great swap engine also. Turned up a little it might pull even my overweight trucks butt down the road. Its a little heavy but I could work with it.
G