V10 Diesel conversion

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Why not go with the early model 6bt cummins with or without the intercooler there is no complicated wiring and the hp and tourqe are tremendous plus you can use it with the tranny that you have. I am planning on one in my 60 I am taking measurements now out of my 05 cummins and getting ready to measure everything up.
 
Waggoner5 said:
I like the Duramax also, just not sure what to do with the intercooler. Theres just no room.

That diesel is in a different league. Indy or Imsa engines are built with a whole different powerband. I bet that torque band is perfectly flat though.
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the V-10 does not require an intercooler, or is there just more room for one?

I'm a fan of the common rail Cummins & may someday (After I get my 1ton swap finished) research dropping it into my 60. The intercooler will probably be the least feasable part of it.

I would definately consider a 6bt but the VW would be different & I would image very quiet but probably cost more in the end.
 
Well I own a common rail motor and I am not really all that pleased with it at all. When I start my swap and am going to build up a 92 intercooled with the "wobbel" due to how responsive and simple they are. If you are thinking of clearance issues then go with the 88-90 model non intercooled motor and you will not have that issue they still make massive amounts of hp and the heating of the turbo will not be an issue since you are not sled pulling or anything like that.
 
well,

As the guy who did the Audi (VW) swap into my 40, the actual mechanical interface is really the least of your worries. The adapter plates took me a while to do (did em myself) and once that's all out of the way the wiring isn' so bad either.

I haven't had the time to finish up the little stuff: no EVAP, no VSV, no EGR, etc. That's all coming up soon.

On my setup, the MFA system uses it's own sensors which are now hanging limp, and the actual ECM uses companion sensors, then it's the ECM that outputs info to the MFA, dummy lites, and other body modules. I have a VAG-COM setup (RossTech) purchased off ebay for $25, and I bought the license for $75.

I used Mitchell on Demand software for wiring diagrams and a russian website that publishes complete FSMs on line.

here in BC, there's lots of guys doing 1.9 / 1.8 TDI swaps into Samis.

perhaps dahlback racing has some upgrade kits if the V10 isn't muscle enough for you. (home of the 900 BHP 2.5 litre Audi powered golf) http://www.audituning.com/

Max. power (V10 TDI)

355 hp (262 kW)
Max. torque

629 lb-ft
Changes

New E-prom.
Price incl. installation

2297 EUR excl. VAT
Note

This upgrade is TÜV-approved and meets the current european emission regulations. The software maintains full functionality in terms of diagnostics, engine protection and fault code memory.

HTH's
 
The intercooler on the DMax is huge. I mean really big. If you removed both batteries and hacked out the inner fenderwells you could maybe fit it in. I know there are aftermarket coolers out there that would be easier to install but I like the completely stock install. The reason I like the V10 is its realative light weight and only being 5 liters. The intercooler could be smaller and more manageable. I am not looking for high hp or torque numbers but 300HP and 400TQ is a goal. The 6BT is just too big and heavy for me to consider.
 
How about a supra motor they should fit in there good and have plenty of hp and tq.
 
I think I remember some mentioning about the Supra motor but supposedly it makes most of its horsepower and torque at high RPMs. Not ideal for rock crawling or off-roading. The immediate torque of the diesels is one thing that makes them so sought after.
 
You could set up a twin turbo to be efficient at both mid and high rpms which should work with decent gearing, and save quite some weight compared to a big diesel. For a big trck you can't beat the tractorish engine feel though :grinpimp: IMO
 
Gary, while your at it why not get rid of the tired 4L80 and drop in the new 6L80. It is lighter, the same size of the 4L60 and should work a little better with the low reving diesel. Take a look at the specs...something like 4.0 first gear and around .7 6th gear. I am looking into doing this with a LS2. I really like the idea of the diesel but it seems a bit involved for me. Let us know what you come up with in the search for the V10
 
I like the looks of the new tranny, but want to keep the existing stuff. I have the 4l80E then a Klune so I have the low gears. I am running 37s with 4.10s so highway rpm is perfect. I am still pondering and doing my homework.
G
 
Waggoner, go with the V10 TDI, based upon your past projects, you can pull this off, and do a clean job of it. I look forward to hearing more about this project.
 
Well what can I say?

Mouth open and in awe, look forward to somethng unheard of and awe inspiring.

As you know I am a diesel nut and full heartily will love a diesel build.


Rob
 
I still like the VAG V10 5.0TDI conversion. But I have seen and been part of these conversations in the past and it always seems to turn into people trying to talk the guy (or gal) into just using a Cummins. Nothing wrong with a Cummins... but when you have an engine that makes just as much power and remains effiecient as well as weighing half as much... well.... I like that a lot better. :grinpimp: :grinpimp: :grinpimp: Not to mention Im an old skool Vdub nut. :beer:

The R10 and R12 is awesome too. :smokin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcFUE1i-XB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IAKlOVcWOA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_R10
 
check eCode Parts
they import 3, 4, and 6 cyl TDis, and can get 5 and 10 cylinders as well. i'm talking with them about a 5cyl TDi complete, price delievered to my door looks to be about $2500

obviously, the 5cyl doesnt have as much power as the 10 you're looking at
 
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