underside of the 200 series and the Patrol Y62 ( pics included ) (1 Viewer)

[GX-R]

first of all a look at the new Patrol with a sahara ARB bumper .







now lets have a look under each 4x4

Land cruiser 200



PATROL Y62


Front suspension

Land cruiser




Patrol y62




rear suspension

Land Cruiser




Patrol y62




a little bit of flexing









I think the Land Cruiser looks more protected under ?what do you think ?

 

[2004Cruiser]

Looks like Nissan did a great job.

 

[Carl L]

Thanks for the detailed pictures. You're probably right re protection on the LC. I prefer the 5th gen Patrol but I'd expect this new one to still be a reliable and tough vehicle so long as the rims are kept no bigger than 18s.

 

[Nospell]

Looks like the rear seal of the t-case is leaking on the LC? Anyone else see this in the pic looking from the back?

 

[tempestv8]

Looks like the steering rack for the Patrol is mount forward of the front diff, whereas I know for a fact that the LC200's steering rack is mount behind the front diff.

The official workshop manual for the LC200 steering column removal requires the engine to be removed due to its location. :-(

I suspect that this is not required in the Patrol.

The ramp test seems to show the Patrol has travelled further up that ramp. Looks like Nissan have done a good job with axle articulation. Also, at full droop, their rear suspension does not have a low hanging diff that can halt progress when driving through very deep ruts.

I wonder whether the LC200 was driven up the ramp in Low Range, which would have effectively allowed for more axle articulation from the KDSS system.


The Patrol's independent front arms look larger/longer than the LC200's, but the shorter Toyota arms look much thicker. Would almost imply that the Patrol's IFS front will have better travel by virtue of having longer arms. However the Patrol's sump looks a little exposed and seems to be hanging lower than the LC200's (which is behind the sump guard).

 

[2004Cruiser]

Looks like the steering rack for the Patrol is mount forward of the front diff, whereas I know for a fact that the LC200's steering rack is mount behind the front diff.

The official workshop manual for the LC200 steering column removal requires the engine to be removed due to its location. :-(

I suspect that this is not required in the Patrol.

The ramp test seems to show the Patrol has travelled further up that ramp. Looks like Nissan have done a good job with axle articulation. Also, at full droop, their rear suspension does not have a low hanging diff that can halt progress when driving through very deep ruts.

I wonder whether the LC200 was driven up the ramp in Low Range, which would have effectively allowed for more axle articulation from the KDSS system.


The Patrol's independent front arms look larger/longer than the LC200's, but the shorter Toyota arms look much thicker. Would almost imply that the Patrol's IFS front will have better travel by virtue of having longer arms. However the Patrol's sump looks a little exposed and seems to be hanging lower than the LC200's (which is behind the sump guard).

Good observations.

 

[04UZJ100]

The front suspension components of the LC look much beefier than that of the Patrol. The arms, connecting rods, knuckles, joints and overall mounting location appear larger. Toyota seems to have modified the 120 platform arms and simply made them a larger/stronger version than what they had. The overall shape is the same.

The Patrol's front LCA's look very similar in shape to the 100's. What this means from an engineering standpoint I have no idea - but the beefieness factor can be given to the LC.

In the rear - they can't really be compared, LC's have always had a bulletproof rear end, the 80 and 100 shared nearly identical ones and the 200's is only a bigger version.

The IRS of the Patrol is gigantic; however, it will be interesting to see how they hold up long term - under heavy load.

The underside of the 200 is neater. The vital drive train components and other important items are all either protected by a skid plate and or located above a frame cross member.