TSB's and other issues, (07' Tundra) (1 Viewer)

[XtremeMarineInc]

At my first oil change, I told the service manager that I felt the transmission starting to slip. 4900 miles. They checked the truck, and found that my fluid level was low, and that there was trans fluid filling up my driveshaft. They told me that Toyota called for full replacement of the Driveshaft. So a new one was ordered. I tow boats weekly, sometimes daily; and was concerned since I would be towing boats in the 8500 lb rating to the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show. The service manager told me not to worry about it, since the fluid had been topped off, and the Parts had been ordered.

Within the next two weeks, I had had my first service done, as well as my new parts installed. A new Alcoa Driveshaft, and the transmission input seal replaced. The service manager also told me that two days before the parts came in, a TSB had been replaced about the driveshaft piercing the seal, and causing leakage. I picked the truck up on a Monday, and by that Friday, the warning lights had all reappeared, as well as the trans slipping worse than ever.

When I brought the truck back in; I was told not to worry about it, since the problems were on my file already. They would "gladly" put a new trans in under warranty, since driving it with the fluid level was "probably" the cause of failure. So now, by 6500 miles, the truck now has a new driveshaft, and a new transmission in it.

When I picked it up this time; the service manager smiled at me and told me another one was coming in the next day, for the same problem. He said at least mine wasn't the only one, so I wouldn't have to worry about it being a lemon.

Has anyone else had similar problems onm 07' Tundra 5.7's?

 

[hoch]

I do not have any useful input regarding this matter, but I would be furious if my $40k+ truck had to get a new transmission, driveshaft, etc. in the first 6000 miles. I love Toyota's, but the new models have me guessing their quality control and workmanship. This is why the next truck I get (for towing) will be a GMC. My father has always had GMC's and never had problems like this. His trucks get WORKED, too. Personally, if I were pulling 8000+ lbs, I would get a 3/4 ton truck.

Sorry about your problems. Hope this will be the last of your troubles.

 

[Gumby]

You would be furious if they put a brand new transmission in it?


It's a brand new design. There are always bugs to be worked out.

I'd be furious if they said it wasn't a problem or just patched it like most of the other manufacturers would do.


Did they give you a truck to drive while yours was out of commission?

 

[hoch]

You would be furious if they put a brand new transmission in it?


It's a brand new design. There are always bugs to be worked out.

I'd be furious if they said it wasn't a problem or just patched it like most of the other manufacturers would do.

You wouldn't be furious? He just pretty much had half of his drivetrain replaced with 6,000 miles on the clock. That's not a bug. A bug is if the window stops working or a TPMS decides to go out. This is a huge flaw. You wouldn't be worried about what might come next if the transmission went out in such a short term? And the service manager says there is ANOTHER truck coming in for the same problem...

And which "most of the other manufacturers" are you talking about? All that I've dealt with (Ford, GMC, Honda, Mitsubishi) would replace a faulty drivetrain in any of their new cars.

EDIT: And I've always had a gripe about Toyota claiming this new Tundra being able to pull 10,000lbs (like a true 3/4 ton truck, as a Toyota rep once said ). I believe, as this OP found out, anyone pulling anything close to 10,000lbs will incur a severly worn out drivetrain. I seriously hope Toyota comes out with a true 3/4 ton, not a wanna-be (not saying Toyota Corp. claims that, but its reps sure thinks so).

 

[Gumby]

Yes. I would say that a faulty output shaft seal is a bug. They trans didn't hand grenade. The trans was damaged by hard towing with low fluid levels.

Ford doesn't give you a truck if a spark plug blows out. Nor do they give you a engine. In fact they won't even pay for the repair.

GM doesn't fix an intake gasket either.

Are any of Domestics taking care of the trans issues each of them has had with the diesels?

 

[ToyotaDon]

There is a TSB that just came out yesterday regarding a Check Engine light with abnormal transmission
shifting. If the fluid level is found to be normal the transmission may need to be replaced. Remember
though that this is specifically with a CEL on & certain DTCs set, so don't go thinking your trans. needs
to be replaced just because it seems to shift different from "normal."

The new Tundra is having very few "problems" compared to the number of trucks on the road. This thing called the internet is changing the way people view vehicles & manufacturers. It just takes a little spark to start a great big fire. Just look at how many people think their FJ Cruiser windshields are faulty.

That's my 2 cents worth.;p

 

[LukeZero]

Very well said ToyotaDon-

I've felt for several years that the Internet offers an enormous megaphone to anyone with a complaint (Valid or not). Sometimes that is great, it gets huge corporations to pay attention to the consumers, other times it just allows some doofus to have an audience for his rants.

DISCLAIMER: The above statement is in no way meant to convey any judgement on the validity of transmission issues in the new Tundra, it is merely a statement on a trend noticed by the poster.

 

[jemezcrusher]

I only have about 2900 on my Tundra 5.7. No problems (other than that "knock" I posted about earlier). I have noticed some hesitation in shifting under aggressive acceleration. I feel like I need to back off of the pedal to get it to shift when "I" think it needs to.

I bought this to replace a 96 GMC. Went back to GM after years of Toyota's. Needed something to tow moderate loads and Toyota just did not have anything at the time. Things were OK with the GMC for about 60,000 miles (other than front brakes 3 times), then the aggrevation started. Fuel pump 700.00 - Intake manifold gasket, 600.00 - Ac condenser came apart, another 600.00. Alternator, blah blah blah.

Never had those kind of problems with my Toyota's. The new Tundra is my seventh Toyota. Other than normal maintenance, I have had no repair expense on any of them. My 88 Landcruiser has all original parts except for brakes, belts and hoses, tires and the gas tank which was a recall. Granted, it only has 112,000 on it, but I ditched the GMC at 80K to return to the reliability of Toyota

Good to know on the tranny fliud and potential problems there. Will keep a close eye on the fluid

 

[hoch]

Yes. I would say that a faulty output shaft seal is a bug. They trans didn't hand grenade. The trans was damaged by hard towing with low fluid levels.

Ford doesn't give you a truck if a spark plug blows out. Nor do they give you a engine. In fact they won't even pay for the repair.

GM doesn't fix an intake gasket either.

Are any of Domestics taking care of the trans issues each of them has had with the diesels?

If you read the original post, it clearly noted that Toyota was unsure of what the exact problem was. Was it indeed the low fluid levels or something more? It was indetermined, as even the service manager said it was "probably" the cause of the problem. Also, the problem was a faulty seal AND the driveshaft. And who knows what else was the cause. We will have to see.

I'm not trying to defend the domestics at all. In fact, all of my friends drive GMC's, Fords and Dodge and I'm usually the one trashing on domestics D). But, my experiences (mostly with GMC) withe these vehicles were not bad at all. My father's company, which has multiple GMC work trucks, all make it to 300k miles almost trouble-free. He's currently got 80k on his '04 2500 and it's rock solid. And that's with PLENTY of towing and hauling, too. My friend's Ram 2500 diesel was a tank and very dependable through 100k miles (he sold it then). It was put to work through it's whole life.

I'm not trying to bash Toyota, because I love my current and past Toyota's. But you have to admit that their quality and craftmanship has gone a bit downhill compared to the older models. At the same time, I believe domestic companies (at least GMC--can't say for others) has stepped up their game a bit more. In the business world nowadays, everything gets outsourced (mainly to China, it seems), so I am predicting the quality and workmanship to level out between all of these auto companies.

 

[HOGWILD]

Hey sounds like to me Toyota stepped up to the plate and fixed your on going problem which i hope goes away for you!! Just keep good records in case you have other issues, I have issues with tranny fluid not being checked every oil change and their is no reason you can't you just need the knowledge! Toyota should give us back the easy check dipstick after they buy enough transmissions, do not know how long this will take but hopefully before i buy again!! Service Writer sounds like to me is doing you good!! ask him for all TSB's he should have no problem with letting you know what they are fixin because they get paid from Toyota Corporate for fixing them. This is a means for them to make big $$$ and they should have no problem fixing all your issues! Any new model vehicle will have growing pains but ya gotta grow with the pains!!

 

[XtremeMarineInc]

I was in no way bashing Toyota. And in no way would I buy an american made pos truck. I almost didn't buy the Tundra once I found out it was made in an american plant. And the main reason I did buy it was because the truck is so over-engineered. It really IS a 3/4 ton truck being marketed and sold as a 1/2 ton. Even though the dealer's finance department sucked, and I would never nuy another truck from this particular dealer, the service department has been outstanding. They did put me into another Toyota while mine was in the shop, but sadly, not a Tundra. Whereas my truck was a first year production model, I expected there to be issues; just not as big as I am seeing. I have seen the spy photos of the dually diesel tundra, and if it gets built; I will buy one as soon as it hits the showroom.

 

[HOGWILD]

That Concept truck will not be a production truck in that condition, and you and me together could not afford to buy it! 8.0L Diesel that can pull 25K will not be cheap or ever happen in a production from Toyota. they will tone it down and it will still be a nice truck but they need to idiot proof it, get rid of the cheap paint, ball joints need redesign, worthless 02 sensors and other SNAFUS which have made people wake up to Toyotas needing more maintenance than the older ones! design quality has been a negative since the early 2000 models. This needs fixed ASAP before it becomes the norm which is not toyota quality!!