Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series 2.8-litre turbo diesel four-cylinder coming, V8 to live on (2 Viewers)

[ALX4X4]

So now the dusts settled to a degree and all the content creators have done the loaded/unloaded/tow and drag race tests in outright performance the (even modded) V8 hasn't won one comparison. Longevity is still TBC but I remember when the voodoo over 1HZ timing belts came out, then the voodoo turbos then the voodoo common rail and they were all doomed to fail now we have the voodoo 4 cylinder yawn. Me I couldn't care lees as my 'newest' 4wd is from 1995 and I'm not in the market but I'd go 4cyl any day of the week it seems.

 

[Dougal]

So now the dusts settled to a degree and all the content creators have done the loaded/unloaded/tow and drag race tests in outright performance the (even modded) V8 hasn't won one comparison. Longevity is still TBC but I remember when the voodoo over 1HZ timing belts came out, then the voodoo turbos then the voodoo common rail and they were all doomed to fail now we have the voodoo 4 cylinder yawn. Me I couldn't care lees as my 'newest' 4wd is from 1995 and I'm not in the market but I'd go 4cyl any day of the week it seems.

Any word on fuel useage?

 

[ALX4X4]

Any word on fuel useage?

Even loaded the 2.8 is still in front its seems they are in the high teens loaded, the 2.8 drops to 12-ish litres per 100 the 4.5 stays the same. 2.8 does sound like a vacuum cleaner in comparison

 

[ALX4X4]

 

[ALX4X4]

 

[ALX4X4]

 

[Indestructible 47]

It's all just click bait rubbish comparisons. It's how these people make their money.

There has not been a like for like with weight, tire size and a tune yet. And they'll continue to string it out to make as many money making click bait videos as they can.

 

[Dougal]

It's all just click bait rubbish comparisons. It's how these people make their money.

There has not been a like for like with weight, tire size and a tune yet. And they'll continue to string it out to make as many money making click bait videos as they can.

The video directly above is a very good comparison. Same weight (they ballasted the ute to match the wagon), same trailer dyno attached, same day same track.

The 4 cylinder stomped the v8. Because more torque (500Nm vs 430Nm) and more gears (6 vs 5) to stay in the right rpm. It also used less fuel because fewer cylinders have less drag and less internal heat loss.

 

[Hulsty]

I spent the day today doing light offroading in a 2.8L Hilux 500Nm model and a LC300 TD, both auto. The 2.8L had plenty of poke on the road, everything else about it was unpleasent, lots of NVH, in low range it had virtually no engine braking and the gearing was poor.

 

[GreenPump]

Whoops, meant to post that in a different thread.

 

[SNLC]

It's all just click bait rubbish comparisons. It's how these people make their money.

There has not been a like for like with weight, tire size and a tune yet. And they'll continue to string it out to make as many money making click bait videos as they can.

I would rather watch Land Cruiser click bait vs all the rest.

Cheers

 

[Lo2aY]

late to the party here. been a year with the new drivetrain in the 70 series. It's been good in these hot climates of arabia.

Although I do not think this engine will last as long as the V8 does. simply because of boost. The 2.8 is under more pressure it seems like all the time compared to the V8.

When boosting the V8 to similar levels as the 2.8. you will have better performance out of the v8 but at the cost of reliability.

The engine as most of you know is not new for Toyota. It's been in the Hilux, Prado and Fortuner (medium duty) applications for sometime now. it's a proven engine in these chassis but I'm not sure it can handle the abuse the 70 series usually sees in global and developing markets. These truck usually are loaded well beyond GVM in many markets and they keep delivering with all that abuse. Clearly Mr. T over engineered the car to handle these types of situations but I'm not sure this would be true with the 2.8

Has there been an engine from Toyota under the land cruiser name plate that's a complete flop?

The new engine in the 300 series (gas) variant has been a disaster for Toyota. But prior to this, do we have any drivetrains that didn't deliver up to the name plate?

 

[Dougal]

Has there been an engine from Toyota under the land cruiser name plate that's a complete flop?

Not a complete flop. But all the IDI engines have typical IDI head/precup issues, the 1HD-T (80series) had crank oil cavitation issues that ate big end bearings and the V8 had oil consumption issues for the first few years.

The 1HD-FTE remains the best diesel Toyota have made.

Overloading, abusing and beating on vehicles isn't limited to vehicle brand, type or useage. They all get it.

 

[JuanJ]

Hello,

Regarding troubled engines, the 2L-TE comes to mind. Engineering mistakes are catastrophic, and Toyota is no exception.

Apparently, Toyota got the heat management right. Otherwise, the 1GD would struggle in hot climates.

Yes, everything in the 70 Series is overengineered. These trucks often operate under extreme conditions. Time will tell about the 1GD engine's ability to withstand the abuse 70 Series trucks endure.





Juan

 

[SNLC]

The 1HD-FTE remains the best diesel Toyota have made.

Agree 100%. It’s the end of nearly 40yrs of Toyota engineering an inline-six cylinder diesel. They kind of worked out all the quirks by the FTE.

Cheers