Let me count the skinnies...
1, 2...oh, her
1, 2...oh, her
Tires: Tall and Skinnys?
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I went from 285/75/R16 Revos to 255/85/R16 Toyo M55s on my 80. Truck performs a bit better - there is about the same level of road noise, and these tires LAST.
255s are the tire to go with.
I think I have ruled out that toyo mts are not going to be a go. Expensive and won't last that long.
Its down to either bfg mts or toyo m55s. BFGs being the cheapest, if the m55s are a substansial price difference I will be going the bfg route.
I think I have ruled out that toyo mts are not going to be a go. Expensive and won't last that long.
Its down to either bfg mts or toyo m55s. BFGs being the cheapest, if the m55s are a substansial price difference I will be going the bfg route.
X2 on the BFGs. Before I lifted my Tacoma I ran 31" A/T BFGs and got incredible mileage out of them. I was anal about rotating every 2nd oil change which enabled me to get close to 75k out of them. Now that I've lifted and gone to a wider, 33" BFG - I do notice that the truck tends to try to fight me in finding a line on the highway a little bit. A little disconcerting if you're not paying attention. If you like TopGear (the BBC version, not the US) then you'll see that they also agree with me on this for having done the same sort of lift to an FJ-40 and observed the same behavior. Since you mentioned you are not interested in lifting your Taco, then I'd recommend getting the 31"x10.5x15 BFG A/Ts for everyday driving + a good amount of utility for off-road. Mud terrains wear out too fast and are difficult to keep aligned, IMO.
Good luck with your purchase, and remember to rotate the 'ell out of 'em! EDIT: AND, remember to zero out your camber. I did have a heck of a time getting mine adjusted at first and wore my front tires out faster than the rears. But once I zeroed out the camber, all was right in the world.
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Good luck with your purchase, and remember to rotate the 'ell out of 'em! EDIT: AND, remember to zero out your camber. I did have a heck of a time getting mine adjusted at first and wore my front tires out faster than the rears. But once I zeroed out the camber, all was right in the world.
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Good points. The heavier your tires, the more they'll develop minds of their own.
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tires fold due to driver error and inexperience.
a tire run at proper air pressure will not fold under.
skinny tires are great for true expedition rigs bit for weekend warriors then not so good. i like skinny tires. i like fat tires. they have their place.
i also like to install the tires of choice for the driving i will be doing. if i am running on the street then a mud tire is just for show and an all season tread skinny works the best. quiet, predictible, long lasting.
if i am heading off for a weekend of trail running then i install the tractor tires and once again, skinny and tall.
it comes down to application, if you are doing 90% hard surface running then install the skinnies and you won't regret it. for the other 10% install a warn 8274 to help you through.
that would be my .... suggestion.
a tire run at proper air pressure will not fold under.
skinny tires are great for true expedition rigs bit for weekend warriors then not so good. i like skinny tires. i like fat tires. they have their place.
i also like to install the tires of choice for the driving i will be doing. if i am running on the street then a mud tire is just for show and an all season tread skinny works the best. quiet, predictible, long lasting.
if i am heading off for a weekend of trail running then i install the tractor tires and once again, skinny and tall.
it comes down to application, if you are doing 90% hard surface running then install the skinnies and you won't regret it. for the other 10% install a warn 8274 to help you through.
that would be my .... suggestion.
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Whatever you do, when you find the tires in the size you like, make sure the shop in question knows this. Local shops are great for customer preferences, but big chains are less likely to do what the computer says, and if they don't let you see what's going on "behind the curtain" you could end up with 27" tires while you're away taking an exam in American Lit. Trust me, I know these things.
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if they ask what is your car, i say 33x10.50 x 15's bfg mt's.
and they are going on 15" rims.
and they are going on 15" rims.
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Problem was I told the counter-jockey I wanted 31X10.5R15's three days before when I made the appointment, but he evidently didn't take notes.
Done with Pep Boys...
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i am sure that some of the guys in here will chime in.
since i have just recently went to this size, i can not say, so far my stock birfs have held up fine, i did have a used long field blow though.
it came out of a truck that was running a spool in the front so it is possible that it was already cracked and i did not see it when inspecting it.
since i have just recently went to this size, i can not say, so far my stock birfs have held up fine, i did have a used long field blow though.
it came out of a truck that was running a spool in the front so it is possible that it was already cracked and i did not see it when inspecting it.
chuck if you have not done it yet, post your question on the 79 section.
here are my skinnies...
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here are my skinnies...
Cool!
Toyotas and pizza cutters, there's nothing like 'em!
And we're back on track. I'm gonna delete my hijack in the making, the question's been moved to the apropriate forum.
Are those the STA Superlugs? Planning on running them on my rig as well.
The bias ply gets a lot of flack for being "old technology", but I'm willing to try them out first hand and make that decision myself. Does anybody have any recent experience with tall bias ply tires on an expedition rig? These discussions usually divert off to "my buddy's buddy ran bias tires on his trailer and hated them", and really miss the point.
Yes, this is the STA. I know it is a bias tire, but for my FJ79 pick-up that is used as a truck or some slow off-roading, I am not as concerned with the ride quality/runs cooler/last longer and other benefits that a radial offers. Besides, find me a radial tire in the 9.00x16 range that you can actually buy. I like the Simex Jungle Terrains, but they are too expensive just because they are not readily available in the US, the Michelin XLs or XZLs are unobtainable. The only other option in a taller, skinner tire are Super Swampers and they are too aggressive for what I need and probably not so good in snow.
The most irritating thing about bias ply tires is the flat-spotting. I've heard about there being advances in technology that helps with this, but no experience myself. I've been a radial guy since the first BFGs. But for a trail rig or something you don't have to jump on the freeway first thing in the morning before they've limbered up, no problem.
That's a nice looking tire...and size does matter
That's a nice looking tire...and size does matter
the flat spots only come about when they sit for long periods of time, although in cold weather, they act like they have them till the tire warms up, i had them on an old dodge, when i first got it, and it had set for about 2 years, so it had the true flat spots, and they would not go away, so i bought some radials.
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i have wheel both radials and bi-ply
yes, there is flat spots
yes, bi-ply handle differently
never really saw any substantial difference off road.
personally, you have to accept the characteristics of the tire of choice. back then it seemed bi-ply had better sidewall protection.
yes, there is flat spots
yes, bi-ply handle differently
never really saw any substantial difference off road.
personally, you have to accept the characteristics of the tire of choice. back then it seemed bi-ply had better sidewall protection.
crushers, i guess it was because the car set so long that the flat spots would not come out of those tires, i worked at a tire shop at that time, so all the old timers told me to do this and this, then they put them on the truing machine, well that fawked up the tires it ate all the tread off, so i stuck a decent set of used radials on it.