Timing Belt Changed at 230K miles [original belt]

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Anyone panicked by being a bit overdue for a TB change should not see this as a reason not to do it, but I finally changed my original TB after 230K miles of reliable service. I'd been keeping an eye on the belt every six months or so. It looked good, but I was shamed into changing it by a good friend who said something about driving a time bomb.

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So, what was hiding under the covers of a 230K mile engine being opened for the first time?

Drive Belt components
The drive belt itself was fairly crusty, but not frayed or otherwise damaged.
The drive belt idler pulleys both had well worn bearings. I had new pulleys ready to go, but a quick look at them showed that both pulleys use extremely common bearings that are readily available and cheap.
The Tensioner pulley uses 6203 bearings. A good quality 6203 runs around $4.00
The Idler pulley uses a 6020-15DUL [shielded 6020[ which run around $5.00.
I replaced both bearings in the original pulleys, which is very straightforward to do. Any decent shop will do both for maybe $20, and that's against more than $120 for the two new pulleys.

Timing Belt Condition
I'm not suggesting anyone leave their original timing belt unchanged for 200,000 + miles!!! That said, the belt was in pretty good condition.

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There was slight but uniform surface cracking the full length of the belt. The cracks were superficial, with no exposure of the belt fibers at any point.

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The edges of the belt were square and clean, with no sign of excessive wear or damage.

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Water Pump and Cam & Crank oil seal condition
Even more surprising was that there was no evidence of seepage from the water pump, and both camshafts and the crankshaft seals were perfectly dry.
I replace the water pump with new OEM, but decided not to disturb the cam and crank seals.

The TB tensioner was looked rough, with considerable rusting of the case. It passed the FSM test and was still holding tension within spec, but I replaced it regardless. Note that the tensioner has been updated, so don't be surprised to find that your new replacement is much shorter than the original.

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For anyone contemplating a drive belt/timing belt/water pump refresh as a DIY, its fairly straightforward. There are a few good writeups in the FAQ along with a terrific library of pics by Pete Pressley, and the FSM has good coverage of each major stage. There is plenty of room to work with the radiator out, and no rocket science required at any point in this job. I suspect it could be done on jack stands. I was using a lift, but the only time I had the truck higher then just wheels off the floor was when cleaning the face of engine before starting the install the new parts. I was able to squeeze my 6'4" 200# frame into the gap and hand clean the front of the engine fairly comfortably.

Maybe the most remarkable thing was that every fastener came out easily, and with no sign of corrosion. I've worked on many European engines where a job like this would involve several broken bolts, at least. An impact gun helps when removing the PS drive pulley and crank bolt, but its not essential.

The engine is now running as smooth as silk and super quiet. Ready for the next 100K miles or so. f7Tts
 
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Very impressive for an East Coast rig.

So my assumption is that you replaced the following:

Belt: 13568-09070
Pump: 16100-59275-83
Idlers: 13503-0F010/13505-0F010
Thermostat: 90916-03100/Gasket: 16346-50010
Tensioner(yes, new design): 13540-50030

Congrats. Looking tough indeed. I have always though that the 2UZ is the best V8 in terms of reliability out there. Toyota Industries was not joking around with this engine.
 
Very impressive for an East Coast rig.

So my assumption is that you replaced the following:

Belt: 13568-09070
Pump: 16100-59275-83
Idlers: 13503-0F010/13505-0F010
Thermostat: 90916-03100/Gasket: 16346-50010
Tensioner(yes, new design): 13540-50030

Congrats. Looking tough indeed. I have always though that the 2UZ is the best V8 in terms of reliability out there. Toyota Industries was not joking around with this engine.

That's the parts list for the timing case, plus new drive belt and new bearings for the drive belt idler and tensioner pulley.

You're dead right about this engine. I was very impressed by how solid the timing case components are. This thing has what it takes for a very long service life. I'm from Australia, where the 80s were legendary. Once I moved here, and the 100 was released, I had to have one. Its been a rock!
 
You're dead right about this engine. I was very impressed by how solid the timing case components are. This thing has what it takes for a very long service life. I'm from Australia, where the 80s were legendary. Once I moved here, and the 100 was released, I had to have one. Its been a rock!

I agree. If it wasn't for the IFS (sorry Spressomon), I would be all about the 2UZ powered 100 series.

At least the Australians were lucky with getting the 105 series as the cross over vehicle before the introduction of the 100 series in IFS variant for the long term, which in my opinion, has been a terrible disaster for the legacy of the wide-bodied, big LC's worldwide. At least you have the option of the 7x series with the 1VD there; we don't get that option and drool at your pics from Oz.

The 2UZ is merely a higher torque engine variant of the legendary 1UZ found in the Lexus LS400 sedans of the early 1990's which are truly unique vehicles as well.
 
The 2UZ is merely a higher torque engine variant of the legendary 1UZ found in the Lexus LS400 sedans of the early 1990's which are truly unique vehicles as well.

Ha! I didn't know that the 2UZ evolved from the early LS400 engine. That was the first car I bought in the US. Silky smooth, but lit up nicely when pushed hard. Loved that car too.
 
Ha! I didn't know that the 2UZ evolved from the early LS400 engine. That was the first car I bought in the US. Silky smooth, but lit up nicely when pushed hard. Loved that car too.

Yup. Phenomenal engine and vehicle which is why they retain such value and which is why many of them are still running quite strongly.

The 1UZ was Toyota's first mass production V8. They had employed them in industrial and marine applications as early as the mid 1980's but never in automotive applications until the LS400.
 
I agree. If it wasn't for the IFS (sorry SHOTTS), I would be all about the 2UZ powered 100 series.

At least the Australians were lucky with getting the 105 series as the cross over vehicle before the introduction of the 100 series in IFS variant for the long term, which in my opinion, has been a terrible disaster for the legacy of the wide-bodied, big LC's worldwide. At least you have the option of the 7x series with the 1VD there; we don't get that option and drool at your pics from Oz.

The 2UZ is merely a higher torque engine variant of the legendary 1UZ found in the Lexus LS400 sedans of the early 1990's which are truly unique vehicles as well.


Fixed it for ya.

:D
 
That belt looks pretty cracked... I agree with your friends diagnosis about a ticking time bomb... that being said; I changed mine at 147k (original belt) and although it wasn't as cracked as yours, it did show a little fraying at the edges.
 
That belt looks pretty cracked

Its all relative, but the cracks in the belt were completely superficial. The belt's tensile strength is provided by the aramid fibers that are encased in the rubber. If the rubber cracks enough to expose the fibers the belt is seriously degraded, but this was not the case.

Still, its good to know there is a nice new belt, water pump, and idlers in place. The garage band that used to play when I started the truck up from dead cold has left the building. I starts up silky smooth and quiet now. :D
 
pegasis0066 said:
Is it usually not the belt that breaks, but failure of the water pump, tensioners, rollers, etc. that touch the belt?

I say you were lucky.

My water pump was leaking on the tb at 122k
 
Well its time for my water pump change,it's just started to leak at 216k, so i will be doing this soon.

that's a good run! Mine started leaking about a year ago and my odometer is currently only at 160k (kms). I start a new job on the 16th so the major engine service and the suspension will finally get done in the next month or so.
 
moooooo,
C'mon the D's!
Lived in Camberwell and Narre Warren for around 10 years before moving to the US.
Cheers!
 
Not "gettin' it" fellas...

If that timing belt had let go you would have had a very expensive repair on your hands.

Waiting to 200K+ miles to change a timing belt seems like the people who wait to buy new tires until the steel belts are showing.

True story: Girlfriend's son can't live without an Audi A4 and buys one on ebay with 105K miles. When he picks it up the seller says something like "Hey you'll need to get the timing belt changed-I haven't had the time". Sure enough on the drive back to Utah just east of Denver the belt breaks and valves meet pistons..."up close and personal". Three thousand dollars later the engine is repaired.

Preventive Maintenance: It's a good thing...
 
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