Time to sell my Montero and buy a LX!

[chriscosta416]

Hi all,

Bumping this again as my Montero has officially sold. Currently I am looking at a 2013 LX570 with 90k miles. However, no history of waterpump or TB replacement. So I am expecting to have to do that, did the 2013 model years receive the "updated radiator"? Also any other issues I should look out for? I also have an 09 with 170k miles of course a little rougher but doesnt bother me. Even with gas prices going up it seems LX prices just keep rising.

 

[grinchy]

Old rad design on the 2013

 

[lx200inAR]

Hi all,

Bumping this again as my Montero has officially sold. Currently I am looking at a 2013 LX570 with 90k miles. However, no history of waterpump or TB replacement. So I am expecting to have to do that, did the 2013 model years receive the "updated radiator"? Also any other issues I should look out for? I also have an 09 with 170k miles of course a little rougher but doesnt bother me. Even with gas prices going up it seems LX prices just keep rising.

3UR-FE doesn't have a TB (assuming you are referring to timing belt). That was a 2UZ-FE (4.7 from 100 series amongst others) maintenance item.

 

[chriscosta416]

3UR-FE doesn't have a TB (assuming you are referring to timing belt). That was a 2UZ-FE (4.7 from 100 series amongst others) maintenance item.

sorry I am just use to typing out WP "and TB replacement" yes I am aware

 

[1world1love]

Hi all,

Bumping this again as my Montero has officially sold. Currently I am looking at a 2013 LX570 with 90k miles. However, no history of waterpump or TB replacement. So I am expecting to have to do that, did the 2013 model years receive the "updated radiator"? Also any other issues I should look out for? I also have an 09 with 170k miles of course a little rougher but doesnt bother me. Even with gas prices going up it seems LX prices just keep rising.

I have a 13 with ~140k now and still have the original radiator and water pump. I am planning a full swap including belts, hoses, stat, etc soon, but it was not an immediate concern. I wouldn't assume that you need to replace those things just yet. I would focus on fluid swaps first.

 

[mceagle555]

Hi all,

Bumping this again as my Montero has officially sold. Currently I am looking at a 2013 LX570 with 90k miles. However, no history of waterpump or TB replacement. So I am expecting to have to do that, did the 2013 model years receive the "updated radiator"? Also any other issues I should look out for? I also have an 09 with 170k miles of course a little rougher but doesnt bother me. Even with gas prices going up it seems LX prices just keep rising.

I just bought a 2008 LX570 157k miles, one-owner, complete Lexus History, with no rust for $24,400.

I was targeting a 2013-2015 between 80-100k miles, but it would be a $20k jump in price. That also results in $1,400 more in sales tax and $200/yr more in insurance for me.

Regardless of year 2008-2011 or 2013-2015, if you are buying used I would plan on baselining & replacing known issues. (This was my approach that I would do regardless of the one you buy.)

Bare minimum:

1. Radiator replacement ($1k in parts if DIY)
2. Front diff fluid change ($25 DIY)
3. Rear diff fluid change ($50 DIY)
4. Transfer Case fluid change ($120 DIY with OEM "golden fluid" or $25 with 75w90)
5. Oil Change ($40 DIY)

Medium (Good idea):

6. Transmission drain/fill (Different than full flush) - ($36-$120 depending on how many drain/fills you do)
7. AHC Fluid Change
8. LED Light Upgrades ($30 DIY)
9. Coolant Change ($60 DIY)
10. LED Headlight Upgrade ($90 DIY bulbs)

 

[chriscosta416]

I just bought a 2008 LX570 157k miles, one-owner, complete Lexus History, with no rust for $24,400.

I was targeting a 2013-2015 between 80-100k miles, but it would be a $20k jump in price. That also results in $1,400 more in sales tax and $200/yr more in insurance for me.

Regardless of year 2008-2011 or 2013-2015, if you are buying used I would plan on baselining & replacing known issues. (This was my approach that I would do regardless of the one you buy.)

Bare minimum:

1. Radiator replacement ($1k in parts if DIY)
2. Front diff fluid change ($25 DIY)
3. Rear diff fluid change ($50 DIY)
4. Transfer Case fluid change ($120 DIY with OEM "golden fluid" or $25 with 75w90)
5. Oil Change ($40 DIY)

Medium (Good idea):

6. Transmission drain/fill (Different than full flush) - ($36-$120 depending on how many drain/fills you do)
7. AHC Fluid Change
8. LED Light Upgrades ($30 DIY)
9. Coolant Change ($60 DIY)
10. LED Headlight Upgrade ($90 DIY bulbs)

Thanks for your response, I was going to put in a Denso rad and Aisin WP, since it seems Denso makes the OE rads, any reason why you did not go that route? I am just curious is all Appreciate your feedback!

 

[mceagle555]

Thanks for your response, I was going to put in a Denso rad and Aisin WP, since it seems Denso makes the OE rads, any reason why you did not go that route? I am just curious is all Appreciate your feedback!

I prefer to stick to OEM on 95% of the things I put into my vehicles. Toyota/Lexus redesigned the OEM radiator to fix the infamous crack. Here is the complete parts list that comes out to $1047 shipped from a Toyota dealer online.

Part Number	Part Name
16400-50384	Radiator
16380-0S010	Fluid Coupling Bracket
16571-38080	Radiator Coolant Hose
16572-38131	Radiator Coolant Hose
16031-0S010	Water Inlet Sub-Assembly, With Thermostat
16326-38010	Thermostat Unit Gasket
16100-09491	Engine Water Pump
16210-38071	Engine Cooling Fan Clutch
16620-0S012	Accessory Drive Belt Tensioner
90916-A2033	Serpentine Belt
16603-38012	Accessory Drive Belt Idler Pulley
15643-31050	Plug

 

[bloc]

Thanks for your response, I was going to put in a Denso rad and Aisin WP, since it seems Denso makes the OE rads, any reason why you did not go that route? I am just curious is all Appreciate your feedback!

Denso does not make toyota radiators, nor does Koyo which is another common internet myth.

I don't fully understand the structure of it but some subsidiary of toyota called "TRad" makes toyota radiators. All factory rads will have a TRad sticker or mark on the upper tank.

The updated radiator fixes the known issue, and with that resolved the OE radiators are most likely higher quality than anything else on the market. Also not very expensive at about $320 from the major discount sites.

 

[chriscosta416]

Denso does not make toyota radiators, nor does Koyo which is another common internet myth.

I don't fully understand the structure of it but some subsidiary of toyota called "TRad" makes toyota radiators. All factory rads will have a TRad sticker or mark on the upper tank.

The updated radiator fixes the known issue, and with that resolved the OE radiators are most likely higher quality than anything else on the market. Also not very expensive at about $320 from the major discount sites.

I assume this is the company:? 沿革 - https://www.trad.co.jp/databox/data.php/history_en/code

 

[bloc]

I assume this is the company:? 沿革 - https://www.trad.co.jp/databox/data.php/history_en/code

I believe so.

Edit: I remembered one quirk about the Koyo that I put into my 80-series thinking it was the same as original.

Toyota uses JIS hardware on their vehicles, and one detail of this is M8 bolts have a 12mm head. Most M8 hardware uses a 13mm hex.. including what was on the Koyo. So the 8 bolts on the radiator mount brackets were the only 13mm bolts on my entire truck. This meant having to remember to pack a 13 for my trips.. usually it would be 8,10,12,14,17,19,21 etc.

Just one small example of differences between basically any aftermarket and OEM toyota.

 

[chriscosta416]

Ok I asked some folks already but I’m just trying to get a wide range on opinions, the LX I’m looking at is in Pacifica CA and lived there for all its life. My issues is corrosion from ocean salt or anything to look out for, here are some photos would this be ok?

 

[chriscosta416]

UPDATE! Finally found and bought a 2011 LX570 - One owner corporate owned car out of Colorado! Stay tuned for photos and a proper thread for it