Exactly. Bypass the metal pipe and it's a 20 minute job.
Thoughts after my first PHH job - with pic (1 Viewer)
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Does the metal pipe need to be removed to bypass or can you just leave it in place?
You can leave it. It's a pain to remove
Not if you are replacing the head gasket as long as you are in there.
I think it would be in the way. The PHH is a shorty. The Metal Pipe of Doom is mounted only an inch or so away from the mouth that you would have to connect to. There is a way to score the MPoD without having to find someone with small hand that wants to get the bolt off the back of the head, or decide if you want to sacrifice your own hand. One of those Gearwrench deals is pretty much the only tool that will work with any efficiency.
You can just run a knife along the back of it to make a scratch and then just wiggle the MPoD until the flange breaks. I kept my pipe, but I left the bolt off on the back of the head.
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Damn good advice....follow this!
I just bent mine out of the way at the bottom.
Of course, just smash it out of the way. That is obviously possible, but I wouldn't put the IH8MUD stamp of approval on there. It just seems kinda lazy and if I saw that on an 80 I was thinking about buying, I would ask myself "what else did they cut corners on?".
Or you can waste 5 hours trying to out a small 2 inch hose on. And I didn't "smash" it you can literally bend it over one inch with your hand and the bypass hose can pass right by it. Or you can remove it. That is, if you can get it off. Luckily I didn't ask for your stamp of approval on my pesky heater hose. I think if i was buying an 80 and saw that it was bypassed i would understand that it is easier and works just as well. It's not about being lazy. It's about getting rid of a pointless pipe. It's funny that many land cruiser websites sell a phh bypass kit but i guess that they dont meet your stamp of approval either.
That's the plkan if it ever goes. Remove the pipe and the egr crap. But I'm lucky. 224000 and head gasket is fine.Not if you are replacing the head gasket as long as you are in there.
Whatever you say. I don't think it's that hard to remove the pipe, nor do I think the pipe is necessary. It takes five minutes to get the pipe off with the method I described.
If someone asked me how to do the job, I wouldn't tell them to leave the old pipe on there. That's just me though. As long as you are keeping your junk on the road, it's just fine by me. I am a notary though, so if you require a seal, I can provide one.
Regardless of what you do with the pipe (bend it a little or break it off as @Red Merle suggested) bypassing it is much easier. I will try @Red Merle method because it honestly does look weird having that pipe still in place and it is worthless in my opinion. I really never thought about wiggling it until the ear broke off. I tried getting the bolt out and said screw it. The one thing I will say about the 1fz fe is that there are quite a few things in hard to reach places. I always had 40s before this and they are so easy to get to everything to work on in comparison.
As for the bypass kits, I guess if you have deleted the EGR and the metal pipe, there isn't any thing wrong with it. However, if the EGR and that hot pipe are still rolling, having the hard pipe for the PHH starts to make more sense.
There are work arounds for most of the tough stuff to get to on an 80. More extensions seem to really come in handy for some of the toughies.
I would love to delete the egr but again it has two bolts on the back of the head that can't be reached.
What year is your truck?
This thread is out of control....
Oh, dude. It's ridiculously easy to delete the EGR on a '93 or '94 by just stuffing a jumper wire in the wire harness that it links to and route the hoses back upon themselves. It's kinda mind blowing how much of a difference it makes. It eliminates at least three things that kill 80s altogether and many would argue that it mitigates the cause of the head gasket failure. It's so strange to be able to put your finger on that pipe and feel nothing. That f-er used to get hot AF.
I already did that. But I wanted to get rid of the pipe too. But I'm not pulling the head just for that. I could cap the pipe I guess but i figured I would wait and see if the hg ever goes and do it then.
