Tech Talk: H55F Input Shaft & Bearing Retainer Tech/ID Page (3 Viewers)

[matzell]

Is it safe to asume the H41 input would be the same as the H55f of the same era? say early 80's split case? or even an 70's one piece case tranny.

Also can you swap inputs in the case if you have the proper bearing retainer? I guess if you had a bad input in a H41, can you swap in a H55f input?

Thanks

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Is it safe to asume the H41 input would be the same as the H55f of the same era? say early 80's split case? or even an 70's one piece case tranny.

Also can you swap inputs in the case if you have the proper bearing retainer? I guess if you had a bad input in a H41, can you swap in a H55f input?

Thanks

Yes, some inputs shafts and front bearing retainers are shared between the 4 & 5 speed models and can be swapped

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Updated with the 33311-60170 pic. A customer reminded me we hadn't added that yet so I've got it there now

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Update: added complete transmission photos to the original post

Tech Talk: H55F Input Shaft & Bearing Retainer Tech/ID Page

H55F Input Shaft, Bearing Retainer and Bearing Tech and Identification Guide - Full Nerdery! First, there are many great posts on this subject here on Mud but they are in dozens of different threads. I wanted to share some of our internal reference docs and information we use to assist...

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I love looking at them

 

[OGBeno]

Update: added complete transmission photos to the original post

Tech Talk: H55F Input Shaft & Bearing Retainer Tech/ID Page

H55F Input Shaft, Bearing Retainer and Bearing Tech and Identification Guide - Full Nerdery! First, there are many great posts on this subject here on Mud but they are in dozens of different threads. I wanted to share some of our internal reference docs and information we use to assist...

forum.ih8mud.com

I love looking at them

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Druggie.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Druggie.

If nothing else I'm easily amused

 

[OGBeno]

If nothing else I'm easily amused

Same here. That's all I live for now. Easy amusement.

 

[cruiserdan]

Nothing quite like doing a line of transmissions...

 

[Eurasiaoverland]

H55F Input Shaft, Bearing Retainer and Bearing Tech and Identification Guide - Full Nerdery!

First, there are many great posts on this subject here on Mud but they are in dozens of different threads. I wanted to share some of our internal reference docs and information we use to assist customers and build H55F/BF1 Split T-Case transmissions and transmission/t-case combos.

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(33030-60450 / Cruiser Outfitters Part# TR60450 Shown)

There are 20+ different iterations of the H55F (EPC: 33030), many are minor changes, the most prevalent differences being associated with the Input Shaft (EPC: 33311) and Front Bearing Retainer (EPC: 33131). Input shafts are matched to the front bearing retainer by the bearing, seal and length. Fortunately these changes are easily identified both externally and internally.

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The H55F has (10) different input shaft variants for use behind the B, F, H, & HD/HZ family motors. Those (10) supersede to (5) different total variations. B early & late, F/H early & late, and 1HD/1HZ. All of these shafts have a 26-tooth count on the gear itself. The shaft splines are available in a 10 (~27.7mm OD) or 21 (27.8mm OD) as well as 3 different overall all shaft lengths (measured when loose from transmission), 245mm, 260mm, and 280mm.

The major difference is the internals and they correspond to those early (10/1982-9/1985) and late (10/1985+) versions of each transmission.
Note: there is only (5) because there was never an early (10/82-9/85) version of the 1HZ 21 spline variant with the medium length shaft.

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(New OEM 33311-60070 (Supersedes to 33311-60090),10/1982-9/1985, 15mm pilot journal, 28.5mm seal and high step input bearing journal. 245mm OAL)

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(Used OEM 33311-60080, 10/1982-9/1985,12mm pilot journal, 28.5mm seal and high step input bearing journal. 280mm OAL)

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(New Aftermarket 33311-60090, 10/1982-9/1985, 15mm pilot journal, 28.5mm seal and high step input bearing journal. 245mm OAL)

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(New aftermarket 33311-60110, 10/85+, 12mm pilot journal, 32mm seal and low step input bearing journal. 280mm OAL)

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(Used 33311-60111, 10/85+, 12mm pilot journal , 32mm seal and low step input bearing journal. 280mm OAL)

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(New aftermarket 33311-60100/33311-60101/33311-60120 -> 33311-60121, 10/85+, 15mm pilot journal, 32mm seal and low step input bearing journal. 245mm OAL)

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(New aftermarket 33311-60170, 10/90+, 15mm pilot journal, 32mm seal and low step input bearing journal. 260mm OAL)

Hi Kurt, somehow I missed this thread, thank you for posting it!

You show a new aftermarket 33311-60110, is this a part you are able to source?

Can you see any difference between -60110 and -60111? I can only see a machined 'nick' in the gear teeth (no idea what this might be for).

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Hi Kurt, somehow I missed this thread, thank you for posting it!

You show a new aftermarket 33311-60110, is this a part you are able to source?

Can you see any difference between -60110 and -60111? I can only see a machined 'nick' in the gear teeth (no idea what this might be for).

Sorry, I don't recall if we stock the 33311-60110/33311-60111 as a loose part or if that is part of our engineering/NOS sample type stuff. Ping our parts team and they can verify for you: Cruiser Teq | Powered by Cruiser Outfitters - https://cruiserteq.com/contact-us/