Tearing down my HJ47 troopy (7 Viewers)

[Henry James the 47th]

That bracket mounts on the right side of the transmission and is part of the transfer case shifter linkage. It acts as a travel stop for the main t/c shift linkage. It's called a shift guide, part number 36323 in the attached diagram:

 

[Chamba]

You can notch that bracket at the top if you want to so that you can shift into 2WD low as well. I do that on mine whenever I have them out.

Josh

 

[waiting for time]

Why are you linking the TC with the gearbox, copper tube. That normaly is a temp fix for when the seal between them leaks and the oil from the gearbox flows into the TC. This tube prevents the TC to get to much oil and the gearbox running dry. You don't need it when the seal is good.

 

[gswest]

Thanks

I guess I should have a better manual, mine doesn't show that picture of the bracket. Thanks for the help. As for the copper tube, I'll probably remove it and plug the holes, but for now I reinstalled it as I don't have plugs for the holes. Is there a drawback to having the tube there even if the seal is good?

 

[waiting for time]

I guess I should have a better manual, mine doesn't show that picture of the bracket. Thanks for the help. As for the copper tube, I'll probably remove it and plug the holes, but for now I reinstalled it as I don't have plugs for the holes. Is there a drawback to having the tube there even if the seal is good?

Oil going from the gearbox to the TC.

 

[Henry James the 47th]

Is there a drawback to having the tube there even if the seal is good?

It means topping up fluids, or checking fluid levels in both the transmission and transfer becomes more of a hassle than it needs to be. There's no need for a copper pipe since it is an unpressurized drain line, and, there's no need for the drain anyhow as you just redid the seal on the transmission output. That copper line looks like something that is vulnerable to damage from a rock and would then allow sloshing oil in either t/c or transmission to leak - I'm presuming you have no skid plate...

 

[gswest]

There is a skid plate, but after this info, I'm removing the tube. Thanks for the assistance, both of you.

 

[gswest]

I got the mystery bracket installed.

 

[Chamba]

I put those hoses (I've never used copper tube but rather rubber hose) on all of my Cruisers. I think the reason for them is that if that seal between the gear box and transfer case ever does start to leak then it will keep the transfer case from running low on oil. I've never 'needed' it but I like the peace of mind.

Josh

 

[gswest]

Hose or no hose

I'm removing the tube for now, but I'll keep the hardware incase I need it later. I understand the copper isn't needed, but I have it if I need it. Some Australian mechanic made this modification and I'm sure it was because that's the only material they had at the time. I may keep the copper mod. just for that reason.

 

[Chamba]

I'm removing the tube for now, but I'll keep the hardware incase I need it later. I understand the copper isn't needed, but I have it if I need it. Some Australian mechanic made this modification and I'm sure it was because that's the only material they had at the time. I may keep the copper mod. just for that reason.

If it were me I'd keep it installed as-is. The chances of it being damaged are very slim I would think and it looks very well-made. The only reason I used rubber hose was because I never thought of doing it in copper.

 

[gswest]

HJ47

So, HJ47, Your attitude is the tube between the tranny and transfer is not a problem. I've heard both sides and having placed a new seal in, I'm hoping I don't need the tube .
We all have an opinion, and this site gives us a chance to decide which way to go.

Thanks to everyone!

 

[gswest]

E brake installed

After accidentally shooting one of the E-brake springs across my garage (lost forever), I had to order another and wait for its arrival. It came in and now that part is done. I ordered a couple of allen socket drain plugs and removed the oil transfer tube. I have it if it is ever an issue. Meanwhile I have my 62 who's transfer case came apart , it's in the 60 section if you'd like to live my pain. Look under "Transfer case Idler gear broke?"

 

[Waterboy]

Hey I live just south of you. Could I bring my trans and transfer case to you? JK... Amazing work though!

 

[coleman2347]

Just wondering

As I was reading, I noticed the bit about the transfer case guide bracket...was wondering if you are going to noch it per thread #243? Being able to get 2wd low is a great help when your maneuvering.

Pretty work...Lee

 

[gswest]

Notch job

I didn't notch the bracket because I wasn't sure where the notch was supposed to go. I'm probably never going to need to drive in 2 wheel low but I can see why someone would want to have that option.

 

[lostmarbles]

I didn't notch the bracket because I wasn't sure where the notch was supposed to go. I'm probably never going to need to drive in 2 wheel low but I can see why someone would want to have that option.

If you have freewheeling hubs fitted (as most do), then "4-low" with the hubs disengaged becomes "2-low".

And I reckon it is fine to do it this way because why would you ever need to travel long distances in this "2-low configuration"?

So I think the notching business has limited merit anyway.


That's my 2c on this topic anyway Gwest.



PS. And I agree with HJthe47th/Chris. I'm also one for avoiding fitting the "Gearbox/transfer oil-balance line fix". In over 30 years of owning my BJ40 I've never had the oil transfer itself and all my transmission acts/sounds same-as-new. (I might consider fitting one if my transmission was showing signs of wear and if I was somehow unable or unwilling to fix it ... but hopefully that will never arise.)

 

[gswest]

Good point!

 

[gswest]

Drive shaft

I spent the better part of the afternoon degreasing, grinding and painting the drive shaft. I noticed one of the grease nipples is missing, so I'll order that. 30 year of mud and grime took a while to clean off.

 

[waiting for time]

Nice job, but your toe nails look a bit long.