Taurus Fan & GM Alternator Upgrade!

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Cruiser88!!!!! Dang man... have not seen yo name in a while.... Over a year ago, I met CalicoKid at Marks place and he told to let you know that he sends his regards... You know the IH8MUD salute.....

:o I just said I'll tell you he said "whats up"....
wow... I had forgotten bout that one.



HAHA... Anyways... back to the thread...
 
This is the first time I've ever heard people complain about the Taurus fan, from what I hear, they last longer, and move more air than a crappy Spal fan, and their blades flex less.
 
I know its bad practice to put it down there... BUT I WANT MY AC and that's why I"m doing this to begin with. SOOOOOO...

I ordered the New Delco-Remy CS-144 type 140 Amp Alternator with Heavy Duty Bridge Rectifier and Voltage Regulator.

Here is a how to repair video showing this repair friendly alternator.
Delco CS144 Alternator Repair instructions, How to Repair an Alternator
I specified "single groove V belt pulley" on the check out notes.

This alternator is larger and better cooling that the others...
And I will be using this
461804 Adapter Plug Fits CS Series Alternators in Toyota and GEO Vehicles
to connect to the OEM wiring without having to cut anything. And thus will be able to connect my stock spare alternator in a jiffy...;)


The only thing I will not be using is the OEM charging cable. I will be using "4 gauge Fine Strand (high wire count) cable with a fuse" directly to the Battery.

As far as brackets go, I went with the Trail Gear bracket because the maker of the more stout version never replied.

Once I get it all installed, I will move on to getting into wiring and fitting of the fan.
 
Just came in today... :D
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Though not as stout as the one I wanted but could not get a hold of the vendor... I will keep an eye on it... Anyone know a good powder Coating spot in SoCal... Preferably the Bell Gardens/Commerce area?
 
Updates? I am hoping to get this done ASAP as my alt is on teh way out.


- Are you shure the 461804 Adapter Plug will work?

- DO you have a good source for the 175a fuse holder? I saw one linked on pirate or yotatech but wasnt so sure about the link and one link didnt work at all.

- I cannot seem to find which exact alternators work without modifying the bracket or alternator??

I want to keep my idiot light and the newer the better as far as the technology goes. I have one of the brackets from the Pirate guy on the way.

I just need to get these items on the way so I can get it all fixed b/f the alt gives it up, which is probably soon. I have some nice batter connectors that I can use to rerun the power wires and the ground wires in the BIG 3 mod. Im just looking forward to seeing my lights not dim with a tun signal on :)
 
Loks like it will work.. Still ned to check the car but looks good. Had to trim one side.
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Instaled.
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I have not found a fuse yet. What I really want is a 170 amp breaker versus fuse.. But still looking none the less.

Also headed to the hardware to pick up a 10mm x 1.5 pitch thread bolt because the one that came with the bracket wont work. Also it seems that the tentioning bracket will need a little dremmel work because the bolt does not fit. and I still need to powder coat the bracket unless there is a better alternative...
 
I know I've seen 175 Amp DC circuit breakers. Looks like Waytech Wire only handles them up to 150Amps.
Circuit Breakers, Fuses and Circuit Protection Products - Waytek, Inc.

Cooper Bussmann Circuit Breakers, 150A or 200A, no 175A. I've seen the Cooper Bussmann ones at car audio sites and solar sites.
The Series 187 Marine Rated Circuit Breaker features a manual reset with switchable function and is single pole thermal type.

Blue Sea makes a 175Amp one, costs $87 from this palce.
Blue Sea 175Amp DC 2 Pole Flat Rocker Circuit Breaker - DB Marine Electronics

I see lots of marine places with them. Even though they are marine rated and waterproof, I'd still put a cover over them for the dirt.
 
I ran to LKQ junk yard this morning. FOund a CS144 140a alt but the fan was busted on it, so I left it. If I would have had more time I would have swap around a few parts to get what I needed.

On the breakers/fuses. I would like to know what / where to order as well, but $80 is over my budget. The point of my upgrade is getting 100-140 amps for about the same price or cheaper than a stock replacement.
 
Look around for the Bussmann 200mp marine breakers. They should be around $30 to $40 each. Or go with large fuses, a fuse holder and a couple spare fuses, but that doesn't save all that much over the Bussmann.
 
If I was to run a fan such as this one that does run high cfm AND USES quite of bit of current I would use (in simple terms) a dimmer switch .....in my term a voltage reducer. You can from the dash just simply reduce fan speed at will or even turn if off even if you do use a thermstat you can override ride at will.
 
So my trucks out of commission right now. IT DID NOT FIT! I forgot to grind down the areas shown on the CS144 Thread... & I burned my dremel! Sad day this has been.
So I'm off to Home depot to get another one. \
Here is a comparison shot in the mean time.

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And here is the adapter. No cutting wires here.
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Looking forward to your completion. Pirate bracket is supposedly on the way. Need to order the plug and decide which alt I wanna run. (JY, local or ordering one) hoping to get alt for $100 or less.

Are you running new wires to upgrade the big three? Just running them after the plug so you can go back if need be?
 
Chop Shop said:
It looks like there are cutting themselves.
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Yep.

Quick get some liquid electrical tape. clean that off really well, and slather some on. On a short area like that where it may rub wire to wire, I may put a short piece of wire insulation around each of the wires first. Cut it to length to fit, slit it open and wrap it around with the slit away from possible abrasion. Then coat with the liquid electrical tape. When you coat with the liquid electrical tap, make sure the wires are in their final position. That is plug it in, then do the patching. The liquid electrical tape may break away from the plug, but it should stay with the wires and keep them from shorting.

The other option is to replace the connector if you can get it. I do think that one is available. Changing the connector unfortunately also shortens the wires.
 
Bogo said:
Yep.

Quick get some liquid electrical tape. clean that off really well, and slather some on. On a short area like that where it may rub wire to wire, I may put a short piece of wire insulation around each of the wires first. Cut it to length to fit, slit it open and wrap it around with the slit away from possible abrasion. Then coat with the liquid electrical tape. When you coat with the liquid electrical tap, make sure the wires are in their final position. That is plug it in, then do the patching. The liquid electrical tape may break away from the plug, but it should stay with the wires and keep them from shorting.

The other option is to replace the connector if you can get it. I do think that one is available. Changing the connector unfortunately also shortens the wires.
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Or just cut that shiit off and put a normal ol GM plug on the toyota wiring and avoid the adapter all together.

A gm alternator will fit on a stock 22re with a little grinding and a GM plug. Thats all ya need.


adapters kinda go with dremels.
 
Bogo said:
The other option is to replace the connector if you can get it. I do think that one is available. Changing the connector unfortunately also shortens the wires.
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The nation is full of wrecking yards with all the plugs a guy could ever want. It requires getting dirty and actually going to get it but hey any competent yard will have a handful of toyotas to steal a plug off of.

I havent met a counter guy yet that would charge for a little plug like that. Ya cut the wrecking yard one as long as ya can and cut yours as close to the plug as ya can then ya solder and wrap/tape and done. Then its longer than the old one.

Price? $free.99
 
Chop Shop said:
Or just cut that shiit off and put a normal ol GM plug on the toyota wiring and avoid the adapter all together.
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Factory alternator being able to be quickly put back in place was a requirement, so the connector needs to stay.

Chop Shop said:
A gm alternator will fit on a stock 22re with a little grinding and a GM plug. Thats all ya need.


adapters kinda go with dremels.
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Angle grinders are your friend...:hillbilly::wrench: Dremels take way to long.
 
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