Swung wrenches for 8 hours today - rad/phh/flush/belts, etc.

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Finally got around to the 97's parts pile today. Thanks to Cdan for the spectacular prices on all this, BTW. Couple tips by item:

New brass (93/94 spec) radiator - Thanks for other's tips on those upper bolts. Indeed was able to loosen/flex the A/C condensor and get them without removing headlamps, latch, crossmember - literally pulled the radiator in about 90 minutes. On install of the new one, wrestled with the lower left corner of the shroud. Trick is to use a screwdriver to pry the shroud into position as the tranny cooler hoses are pressing hard against it. Also, the fan/shroud come out together easily (heard someone struggling with this recently).

New OEM hoses. Someone mentioned using "personal lube" on theirs recently. Holy crap, really works better than anything.

New OEM belts. This one's tighter getting them on the pulleys than any 80 I've had. Found it helped to actually loosen the adjusters until the adjuster bolt came off. Once the belt's on the pulleys, there's plenty of slack to re-engage the adjuster bolts and then start cranking them tight. Previously, I've used the engine to bump them on, but this can be a bit dangerous.

New OEM A/C belt tensioner pulley. Wow - cheap and replaced the chattering one that was so annoying on startup. Took about 3 mins.

PHH. Holy Moly! I've done 3 of these and this one was truly a pain compared to the others. The spring clip on the block end was quite literally installed in the worst possible position. They're all pointed to the rear of the vehicle and take some finagling to get channel locks on the ears, but on this one the upper ear was tight up against the block. Luck of the draw, I guess. Anyhow, I had to cut half the hose off, unbolt the upper bolt and flex the heater pipe away. This gave me enough room to use the largest flat screwdriver I had to pry that ear down away from the metal lip above it, then get pliers on the lower ear and slowly rotate the clip clockwise until I could get pliers on both ears. That took me 90 freaking minutes of trying everything else I've done before. Truly amazing, and I am reminded of someone here that actually blew theirs and changed it on the side of the road. Dunno who it was, but I bow to you. I used some very high grade silicone hose like I have on the 93 - absolute pleasure to work with as it's very flexy. Replaced the spring clip against the block, and used a fancy lined constant tension $4.50 clamp on the other end. Picture forthcoming.

Miscellaneous:

-I've never backflushed the heater cores as some have, but did this time. Absolutely astounded how much hotter the heater puts out and will do this every time from now on.

-From the you-never-know-what-you'll-find department. Pulled the thermostat out and it was the cheesiest aftermarket thing I've ever seen. Dinky wax cylinder, no rubber seal, no rattle valve for air/coolant purge, gasket had deteriorated so badly chunks were missing, and of course the "USA" maker didn't even have the balls to put their name on it. Had to use a toothpick/toothbrush to get all the crud out of the gasket sealing area before putting in the new OEM one. The original hoses were oozing Toyota Red and had serious amounts of pinky crusties under their sealing surfaces.

-A slight fan pulley wobble I noticed this morning disappeared when it was all buttoned up. PO must not have gotten the pulley properly seated before applying belt tension is all I can figure (didn't know that could be done). I was going to call Cdan in the morning for a new one.

-It's amazing how much quieter these engines are with new belts. I'd forgotten this. Purrs at idle and feels smoother from the driver's seat. This I attribute to the vibrations from the loose/old belts going away.

-Had to figure a way of draining the flush/water out on the drive and getting the truck into the garage for work without starting it. My drive slopes. Striking out on ramps, I made a Rube Goldberg ramp with timbers and got my wife to steer and brake while I gave a good shove after the drain was done. Didn't want to deal with water all over the floor while doing all this. Worked perfect and my neighbor got a kick out of it.
 
IdahoDoug said:
PHH [...] Truly amazing, and I am reminded of someone here that actually blew theirs and changed it on the side of the road. Dunno who it was, but I bow to you. I used some very high grade silicone hose like I have on the 93 - absolute pleasure to work with as it's very flexy. Replaced the spring clip against the block, and used a fancy lined constant tension $4.50 clamp on the other end. Picture forthcoming.


Nice post, Doug- sounds like a productive day of PM. Can you give me specs on the PHH hose you used (where did you get it, part #s for hose and clamps)? BTW about the member who changed his PHH on the side of the road, it was none other than Robbie- big surprise...heh ;)
 
Hey Doug....thanks very much for the informative write up. Once I get my tranny pan replaced and get the darn leak fixed, I'm going to get around to the PHH as I have the hose and the clamps waiting right here...

I've copied this to add to the information others have written...better to be prepared than to be not... ;)

Later
-onur
Akron, OH
 
Brought back memories as I read this - did the exact same work on my '94 about a month ago (minus A/C belt tensioner pulley). My inner PHH was at the top rear as well :rolleyes: You should be good to go for a while now - I replaced the intake tube, PCV and both hoses while I was at it ... but the Texas heat is hard on hoses.

:cheers:

Tucker
 
Great Job Doug! A wrenchathon is totally therapeutic isn't it? I had one question about the lower part of the shroud - if you had loosened the lines to the tranny cooler, but not removed them, do you think there would have been slightly more room to wiggle? I'm having a hard time picturing this part. Thanks again man, great job! :cheers:
 
Definitely therapeutic. In the summer we travel far and wide and getting in touch with the truck is important for me to have confidence it can go cross country under the worst conditions with no issues.

The hose clamps are available at any NAPA and I posted the P/N here a few weeks ago (can't find the reciept). The hose is blue with red inner liner, and bears the imprint "Purosil 80-062" which also came from NAPA but I know they got it at a local specialty hose supplier. The new spring clamp came from Cdan.

The shroud. You'll note that there are two rubber hoses down there. On my 97 one hose is actually attached with a plastic clip to the shroud. When sliding the shroud down, you're preoccupied with also sliding the fan in at the same time and getting it on the bolts so it won't bend the rad fins. Unfortunately, this means you'll simply pin the hoses under the shroud edge, secure the fan, then discover you can't lift the shroud off the hoses because the fan clearance isn't enough. So, just reach down and easily lift the hoses while holding the fan. Then the shroud will majestically go almost all the way down where it's supposed to.

I say almost. Now you secure the fan. Then discover the little tab at the bottom of the shroud is not in the slot. That's when the screwdriver comes in handy - takes some prying and yanking before the shroud goes tightly up against the radiator. Very nice tight fit. Putting a small flashlight in your mouth so you can see down the space between the shroud and radiator helps quickly understand what you're doing while prying and jiggling. That's when you realize you haven't installed the pulley and the whole thing comes out again and you get to do it again. Note: Have the upper shroud under the radiator's inlet tube before prying, etc, or you'll be very frustrated. Once the bottom snaps in, there is not enough room to pull the top in, so have it already in before engaging the bottom.

DougM
 

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