spindle marred rear full float

[iron_giant]

I took apart my rear full float to find exactly what I expected. The bearing lock nut was loose and the outer bearing and outer race were totally, and completely, disintegrated. The largest chunk of metal I found were the some of the rollers from the bearing which were intact. The hub seemed to have "walked" inward and outward about an inch, marring the spindle surface and messing up the spindle threads. I'm not sure if I can work a new bearing onto the spindle surface- or whether I should even try. That said, I don't believe the rear full-float spindle bolts on like the fronts do. Any ideas? I'll see if I can post some pictures.

I really appreciate all of the help you have provided.

David

 

[SuperDuperCruizer]

I was wondering about this myself...

Can you have a machine shop, modify a front spindle & have the axle housing machined to match the replacement spindle? You'll have to have it welded in place the way the old one was once the new spindle was in place.

 

[iron_giant]

some pics

 

[beanz2]

Ouch. I hate to say it, but I'd get a new axle housing, David. A broken axle spindle is not what you want when you are on the freeway. Consider a complete axle from G&S, Specter or Man A Fre. Proffitt's cruisers also had a few recently but I don't know if they stock these. Worse come to worst, buy a semifloater until you can afford a FF again.

Dave

 

[Tapage]

Here we do the clean and to options in a machine shop.

1. fill the wear out part and machine it to factory specs ..
2. make a case ( I'm not sure is right translation ) to use in this place.

 

[iron_giant]

dime en Espanol.

 

[Tapage]

dime en Espanol.

Utaaaa no sabia que hablabas español dude ..

Bueno la idea es que cuando acá tenemos un tema como este lo llevamos a una tornería ( machine shop ) para que lo rellenen con soldadura y luego lo meten al torno y lo dejan como si nada ..

la verdad es que uno de mis ejes traseros estaba picado por una bearing dañado hace tiempo y lo reparé de esta manera y 0 problemas hasta ahora.

 

[beanz2]

Señores, mucho de gente aquí no se hablan español. Para la ventaja para todos por favor discutan en inglés
(Sirs, most of the people here no se habla espanol. Please for the benefit of all discuss in english)

David, the problem with using a front spindle on the rear is that the spindle itself is not as long as the FF rear spindle. There is about 1/2" difference in the length to allow for the retention mechanism instead of the double nut with a star washer. Using a rear hub on a front spindle would not allow the spindle to stick out far enough.

Do you think filling in the defects with solder or weld can make strong enough a spindle? I'm a little skeptical. How long have you been able to run such a repair?

Dave

 

[Tapage]

Do you think filling in the defects with solder or weld can make strong enough a spindle?

Nop .. there are 2 diferent concepts and aplication in this ..

Re-spline any part IMOP loose your time and money .. I'm just only talking about filling defects with weld and machine it ( it's right the expresion ) nothing posible with re-spline it .. coz, when you weld in this surface I thought it loose the factory threadment ( heat or cold .. not sure)

 

[iron_giant]

Señores, mucho de gente aquí no se hablan español. Para la ventaja para todos por favor discutan en inglés
(Sirs, most of the people here no se habla espanol. Please for the benefit of all discuss in english)

Dave

I was going to translate for everyone

Basically in Panama when they have this problem they send it to a machine shop to have the gouges filled with metal, then it is machined to factory specs. David has been running this setup for some time now with no problems.

This is an interesting discussion. I asked around a bit today at several machine shops and it seems they too differ greatly on the possibility of resurfacing a spindle. One shop, a hot rod shop, said it is indeed possbible depending on the amount the spindle needed to be filled and have performed similar repairs. Another said it is possible but they wopuldn't do it for insurance reasons. Several others wouldn't touch the idea. I am going to seek out another axle, but in a pinch it seems it could be a viable option. That said I am no expert and am basing this on the reccomendations of several local machine shops.

 

[SuperDuperCruizer]

Probably better off buying another one...

I bought one from Specter for about $450.00. I think I paid that much in shipping to get it to the east coast.

 

[crushers]

I was going to translate for everyone

Basically in Panama when they have this problem they send it to a machine shop to have the gouges filled with metal, then it is machined to factory specs. David has been running this setup for some time now with no problems.

This is an interesting discussion. I asked around a bit today at several machine shops and it seems they too differ greatly on the possibility of resurfacing a spindle. One shop, a hot rod shop, said it is indeed possbible depending on the amount the spindle needed to be filled and have performed similar repairs. Another said it is possible but they wopuldn't do it for insurance reasons. Several others wouldn't touch the idea. I am going to seek out another axle, but in a pinch it seems it could be a viable option. That said I am no expert and am basing this on the reccomendations of several local machine shops.

you can get them rechromed and machined if the shop is set up for it...
cheers

 

[iron_giant]

found this:

http://www.axleandspindlerepair.com/what.html


So it can be done.

 

[beanz2]

Nice find, David. Any idea how much they charge?

Dave