spare tire relocation (4 Viewers)

[gasman4u]

What options are there to mount the spare aside from OEM (under the rear), a new rear bumper with swing out (dissent, dobinsons, etc), hitch mount (wilco, etc), or going without a spare?

LRA AUX tank going in soon and I was hoping to get something for my spare aside from a home brew ratchet strap to some metal bolted to the 3rd row seating brackets or shoving the thing on the roof rack. I've searched the forum and haven't turned up anything aside from the admittedly cool rear bumper options. I'd rather do this vs the hitch swing out as the marginal cost makes it worth it to me to just jump in. With that said, I am trying to minimize structurally what I do to the truck before my extended warranty expires. TIA.

 

[Sandroad]

It seems to me you’ve rejected all possibilities if you want a spare and:
-no swing out bumper
-no roof mounting
-no inside ratchet strap mounting
-no hitch mount

I think you’re going to gave to choose one and I suspect everyone on here will say go for the swing out bumper and don’t worry about warranty effect.

 

[TeCKis300]

Just to round it out, even though possible absurd - No spare?

As you haven't installed the LRA yet... may want to rethink the 12.5G as it doesn't have these cascading impacts?

Personally, the 12.5G gives me everything I want in expanded capacity. ~38 gallons and 500miles range is generous and meets my needs for every use case. Having to mount the spare elsewhere would have greater impacts to ergonomics and utility.

 

[urinalcake]

 

[cboyd]

Just to round it out, even though possible absurd - No spare?

As you haven't installed the LRA yet... may want to rethink the 12.5G as it doesn't have these cascading impacts?

Personally, the 12.5G gives me everything I want in expanded capacity. ~38 gallons and 500miles range is generous and meets my needs for every use case. Having to mount the spare elsewhere would have greater impacts to ergonomics and utility.

perhaps not too far-fetched if you're willing to ditch the spare for in-town DD duties, you could consider a hitch-mounted spare tire carrier for longer trips.

I too have though about doing the LRA, but these are all impacts that lead to that rabbit-hole. I've considered the 12.5g version as @TeCKis300 mentions, but not taken the leap yet.

 

[cboyd]

i knew i remember seeing an interior option that someone did here... a little 'mud search foo:

Interior Tire Carrier and Storage Platform

Finished product: In an effort to get a better departure angle and rear ground clearance I moved the spare to the interior of the truck. A swing out bumper didn’t appeal to me as I’m in and out of the back of the truck constantly. I don’t have a need for the drivers side 3rd row, so I...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[gasman4u]

It seems to me you’ve rejected all possibilities if you want a spare and:
-no swing out bumper
-no roof mounting
-no inside ratchet strap mounting
-no hitch mount

I think you’re going to gave to choose one and I suspect everyone on here will say go for the swing out bumper and don’t worry about warranty effect.

Thanks for the replies. I'm definitely going with a 24/40 tank, so spare has gotta go. I'm not against inside ratchet strap, I just don't think my time is best spent going down the rabbit hole of home brewing a solution. Last I want is that behemoth becoming a projectile in the event of an accident.

@urinalcake I did lol at the Land Rover solution. I could see some bro's using that as a solid solution, but my hood wouldn't enjoy it. A bit of irony though as I'd imagine the spare would get more touches there on the LR vs the LC.

 

[greynolds]

If you’re concerned about the warranty, I’d probably be more concerned with modifying the fuel system than installing a aftermarket rear bumper.

To satisfy my curiosity…. Unless you’re traveling to really remote areas outside the USA, why is so much extra fuel capacity needed? 500 total miles with the extra 12.5 gallon option seems like plenty for pretty much anything within the country.

 

[gasman4u]

If you’re concerned about the warranty, I’d probably be more concerned with modifying the fuel system than installing a aftermarket rear bumper.

To satisfy my curiosity…. Unless you’re traveling to really remote areas outside the USA, why is so much extra fuel capacity needed? 500 total miles with the extra 12.5 gallon option seems like plenty for pretty much anything within the country.

My take is that if the malfunction isn't directly related to the mod, they shouldn't have any issue with the mod being in place. I am more concerned with the electronics (BSM, rear camera, etc) vs the fuel system having issues.

I travel a lot and have experienced several times range anxiety with fuel stations being either out of fuel, electricity, or not a great idea to stop. Having PLENTY of leeway with extra fuel adds plenty of options to hopefully avoid this. 12.5 gallons just doesn't do it. I'm going full send with 25/40.

 

[1Maverick]

Just to round it out, even though possible absurd - No spare?

As you haven't installed the LRA yet... may want to rethink the 12.5G as it doesn't have these cascading impacts?

Personally, the 12.5G gives me everything I want in expanded capacity. ~38 gallons and 500miles range is generous and meets my needs for every use case. Having to mount the spare elsewhere would have greater impacts to ergonomics and utility.

Exactly! I also have a matching 295/70r18 in the spare location with my 12.5gal It’s snug as a bug. I access the rear hatch so much, a swing out would get old real quick. Now if I primarily used my 200 for actual overlanding, the swingout would be nice along with a 25-40gal tank

 

[TeCKis300]

Not taking sides on this and there's no right and wrong.

It's with every mod that each individual has to find their own balance. Because it is ultimately a balance of trades as the vehicle only has so much space, so much payload, etc. Tailoring for one area may create trades in another. It's easy to get caught up in specific mods. I find backing up to use cases, and recognizing all use cases that I want to use the vehicle for, helps me strike the right balance.

 

[stonepa]

View attachment 3203535

Having driven a LR Series 2 for a long time before I switched to Land Cruisers in 1987, i can tell you the hood is the absolute worst place for a spare. Even though the tires on LRs are much more narrow than those on my LCs, they block forward vision in this position. And the hood becomes extremely heavy. When removing the tire you beat the paint up. I know this suggestion was most likely in jest, I also doubt the LC 200 hood could support a 100 lb wheel/tire without collapsing.

 

[gasman4u]

Having driven a LR Series 2 for a long time before I switched to Land Cruisers in 1987, i can tell you the hood is the absolute worst place for a spare. Even though the tires on LRs are much more narrow than those on my LCs, they block forward vision in this position. And the hood becomes extremely heavy. When removing the tire you beat the paint up. I know this suggestion was most likely in jest, I also doubt the LC 200 hood could support a 100 lb wheel/tire without collapsing.

But do we KNOW it WOULDN’T support the weight?


I too kid. I’m assuming everyone else took it as a joke too. I’d just short of bet the farm that’s how it was meant.

 

[greynolds]

But do we KNOW it WOULDN’T support the weight?


I too kid. I’m assuming everyone else took it as a joke too. I’d just short of bet the farm that’s how it was meant.

Yeah, I think (hope?) everyone took it as a joke. Those Land Rover hoods with spare tires on them had extra structure and associated weight to be able to support the tire.

 

[Tex68w]

Exactly! I also have a matching 295/70r18 in the spare location with my 12.5gal It’s snug as a bug. I access the rear hatch so much, a swing out would get old real quick. Now if I primarily used my 200 for actual overlanding, the swingout would be nice along with a 25-40gal tank

If your 295/70/18 fits in the stock location then it’s probably safe to assume that a smaller 285/75/17 would fit there as well?!

 

[WCDAVE]

I drive locally w/o spare. When traveling it goes up on the roof. Lifted and with larger tires I have not seen 500 miles out of a tank of gas since …….. When towing I want as much fuel as I can have.

 

[grinchy]

Have a narrow 35” in the spare location while the swingout does vertical bike rack duty. I can fit the 35 because my smaller oem tank (12 g) pushes it down a couple inches, and because the tire is a bit worn.

Without a rear swing, I’d just run the 34.3” size that will fit in the stock location, or would go a vertical mount inside.

I also find that 36 g is enough to cut any real range anxiety, and if I did find that mint in/out that was 100 plus 4lo miles each way, I can always add a Jerry like the good old days.

I don’t tow, so I only see single digit mileage in 4lo.

At 400 plus miles a tank on the highway, I’m ready to stop and stretch before the main +aux tank requires me too anyhow.

 

[NTV]

My take is that if the malfunction isn't directly related to the mod, they shouldn't have any issue with the mod being in place. I am more concerned with the electronics (BSM, rear camera, etc) vs the fuel system having issues.

I travel a lot and have experienced several times range anxiety with fuel stations being either out of fuel, electricity, or not a great idea to stop. Having PLENTY of leeway with extra fuel adds plenty of options to hopefully avoid this. 12.5 gallons just doesn't do it. I'm going full send with 25/40.

Agree here. Full send on fuel. Now your internal debate will bounce back and forth between 25 and 40 for months. You will debate the pros and cons of each and at times be all in on both only to change your mind. The only medicine for this madness is the day it’s installed. Even day of purchase at times is not enough medicine for this disease. “Purchase before install” can only lead to even greater internal debate at times. This forum is great. I get to read about the exact things my mind debates on the exact same thoughts. With all that said I am going full send on a 25 with slee rear. Only reason I didn’t do the 40 is all the clearance you loose and as many have said unless your in Aussie trying to do the canning, 500-600 of range pretty much solves north America. Maybe still some fuel anxiety in the Yukon or Alaska but not many other places. The 25 just about eliminates my fuel anxiety which I hate having those miles of a trip when you are the furthest from civilization. Anyone who really goes remote knows that feeling. It’s the first thing you think about rolling out of your tent and the last thing you think about around the fire before you go to bed.

 

[stonepa]

Agree here. Full send on fuel. Now your internal debate will bounce back and forth between 25 and 40 for months. You will debate the pros and cons of each and at times be all in on both only to change your mind. The only medicine for this madness is the day it’s installed. Even day of purchase at times is not enough medicine for this disease. “Purchase before install” can only lead to even greater internal debate at times. This forum is great. I get to read about the exact things my mind debates on the exact same thoughts. With all that said I am going full send on a 25 with slee rear. Only reason I didn’t do the 40 is all the clearance you loose and as many have said unless your in Aussie trying to do the canning, 500-600 of range pretty much solves north America. Maybe still some fuel anxiety in the Yukon or Alaska but not many other places. The 25 just about eliminates my fuel anxiety which I hate having those miles of a trip when you are the furthest from civilization. Anyone who really goes remote knows that feeling. It’s the first thing you think about rolling out of your tent and the last thing you think about around the fire before you go to bed.

Amen to that. Range anxiety is the only anxiety I have ever had with a Land Cruiser.

 

[OSS]

While I didn’t have a 200 series, I had a 60 with a 48 gallon 2X sized gas tank that required the spare underneath to go.

I tried every location to carry the spare — roof, rear outside, front ARB bumper and ultimately inside carried in the rear.

My impressions:
Roof: Carrying a mounted spare tire on the roof sucks. I tried it extensively. Its too heavy and too tall. Creates too much wind resistance and I wasn’t happy with it up there at all. Also it’s almost too heavy to get up there and off.

Rear Outside:
While I didn’t have a rear swing out carrier, I did experiment with carrying the spare outside at the rear using some straps just to get a feel for what it was like. The problem with rear swing out carriers is that they’re very heavy - usually over 100 lbs. Then mount a heavy spare to it and you've got a ton of weight dangling off the back.
Not too much of an issue when driving on the freeway but a significant issue when driving on rough dirt roads.
I didn’t want all that excessive weight dangling off the back - so I bailed on a rear carrier.

Front ARB bumper mounted:
Since I had the experience and tools to mount and dismount a tire off a wheel in the field, I carried an unmounted spare tire only lashed to the front of a big ARB bull bar for one trip (to have 2 spares in Mexico since I always get a flat down there).
While it worked, it did impede air flow to the radiator even though the tire wasn’t mounted on a wheel. The fan clutch activated much more often. It was a pretty good spot with the tire very easy to get at and weight up forward, but it still blocked my visibility up close when inching along sketchy dirt trails. I didn’t like how it blocked my near vision so ultimately I left the tire down in Mexico (still had my other mounted spare).

The last place — inside the vehicle in the rear and held tight with a bracket is BY FAR the best place for a mounted spare tire. When secured upright along a side, it doesn’t take up much room at all.

The absolute worst option is having no spare tire at all. That’s insanity.
DON’T DO IT