So Nissan just teased the Armada (1 Viewer)
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I thought this was a TOYOTA site
IMO it looks good on paper. Not a big fan of that front clip. The hood almost appears to slope up, not down. And it feels very range rover derived, but lacks some of the proper proportioning of the RR. It wouldn't stop me from looking at one though. The Nissan part is harder to get past. Nissan does not stand behind it's products very well and it would be challenge to own them long term.
Size wise (121" WB, 210" length, 83" wide) it's a Sequoia competitor not a LC300 though. LC300 is a midsize SUV, Armada/Patrol is a full size. I remain surprised Toyota does not build a full size Land Cruiser model. If the Armada works in global markets, an LC400 could too.
Size wise (121" WB, 210" length, 83" wide) it's a Sequoia competitor not a LC300 though. LC300 is a midsize SUV, Armada/Patrol is a full size. I remain surprised Toyota does not build a full size Land Cruiser model. If the Armada works in global markets, an LC400 could too.
I spy Dunlop AT23s
I spy Dunlop AT23s
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The base model looks great, but it looks like the US Pro 4x model is the only one intended for off road usage here
It's only being covered in social media platforms (in Arabic). People somehow were able to find the part number of these chassis parts which means they can be bought independently. The question is whether these parts are bolted in or welded. Anyhow, these are just early remarks that I started to feel they are exaggerated and speculative in nature. As professionals/ tuning companies are still "hands off" at this stage.
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Thanks for the great photos and feedback.
What is Nissan’s Japanese factory build quality like these days?
Is the TT 6 a new power plant or do we have any GCC data on it?
If the pricing turns out to be mid Prado range and a buyer is getting Landcruiser 300 level features and performance plus, seems like a great deal.
Cheers
Thanks for the great photos and feedback.
What is Nissan’s Japanese factory build quality like these days?
Is the TT 6 a new power plant or do we have any GCC data on it?
If the pricing turns out to be mid Prado range and a buyer is getting Landcruiser 300 level features and performance plus, seems like a great deal.
Cheers
The Patrol like the LC is a cut above other Nissan products.
Two engines
VR35DDTT
And
Starting price is around higher end GCC spec Prado but it's almost priced same as LC300 .
LC300 will start cheaper in some markets but the Patrol taps out for cheaper on the higher end for most markets
Two engines
VR35DDTT
And
VQ38DD
Starting price is around higher end GCC spec Prado but it's almost priced same as LC300 .
LC300 will start cheaper in some markets but the Patrol taps out for cheaper on the higher end for most markets
One thing that surprised me is that Nissan didn't come up with a crawl control competitor.
Unless i missed out on this but I don't recall any standout off road features that weren't already there before.
They have a version of the underbody camera view but other than your usual 4wd system/rear locker and drive modes, I don't recall any stand out offroad party tricks.
Crawl control is more than a party trick, when tested in some scenarios it actually did better than traditional lockers and was quicker with the skill of your average driver.
Also no front locker (patrol never had one though even in the older models)
Even the air suspension doesn't seem to have a separate switch, it's adaptive but you can't actually manually control it.
Unless i missed out on this but I don't recall any standout off road features that weren't already there before.
They have a version of the underbody camera view but other than your usual 4wd system/rear locker and drive modes, I don't recall any stand out offroad party tricks.
Crawl control is more than a party trick, when tested in some scenarios it actually did better than traditional lockers and was quicker with the skill of your average driver.
Also no front locker (patrol never had one though even in the older models)
Even the air suspension doesn't seem to have a separate switch, it's adaptive but you can't actually manually control it.
Does anyone have direct experience with the current outgoing model V8 Armada (2017-2024)? How's the build quality and long-term reliability? (I know it's probably not on the LC200 level, but is it somewhat close enough?)
I know it’s not a patrol, but in the college days, I owned an a32 maxima. Had that thing for probably 5-6 years from miles 60k-120k on the odo. During that time I had to replace:
Engine knock sensor
Both o2 sensors
Interior fan blower motor
Sunroof seal
Ignition switch
Fuel pump
Body control unit
Cv axle
Gauge cluster
Mass air flow sensor
Drivers side wheel bearing
Water pump
Clutch slave cylinder
Engine fan
Brake master cylinder
There might even be other stuff I’m not remembering. Rear main seal had a slight leak that I never did fix too.
The final straw was when it had some bearings go out that caused an oil leak where the cv axles went into the manual transmission. The repair required either a new transmission or an complete disassembly of the old one.
Needless to say, I’ll never own another Nissan again. I made the switch to Toyota and never looked back.
Engine knock sensor
Both o2 sensors
Interior fan blower motor
Sunroof seal
Ignition switch
Fuel pump
Body control unit
Cv axle
Gauge cluster
Mass air flow sensor
Drivers side wheel bearing
Water pump
Clutch slave cylinder
Engine fan
Brake master cylinder
There might even be other stuff I’m not remembering. Rear main seal had a slight leak that I never did fix too.
The final straw was when it had some bearings go out that caused an oil leak where the cv axles went into the manual transmission. The repair required either a new transmission or an complete disassembly of the old one.
Needless to say, I’ll never own another Nissan again. I made the switch to Toyota and never looked back.
I would put the 200 a touch above.
Honestly compared to anything...
But the 200 is also a touch or two above the 300 in that regard too...soo.
300 definitely doesn't feel as solid as the 200 to drive offroad in terms of rattles and so on..even the way the interior is aging and the feel of the body panels.
It's very sad actually.
A part of it could be that they saw that Nissan was able to offer something that isn't as well built as a 200 but sold better in some markets so might as well cut costs where we can with the 300, they are gonna buy it anyway.
I am completely ignorant of anything Nissan. The Armada is a sharp unit, but is it even on the same planet as Toyota/Lexus in terms of reliability and longevity?
My son has a 2016 4Runner, and had a friend in college with a 2016 X-Terra. He said the X-Terra was a piece of junk in comparison. Plasticky, rattled like crazy, certain things didn't work any more.
My son has a 2016 4Runner, and had a friend in college with a 2016 X-Terra. He said the X-Terra was a piece of junk in comparison. Plasticky, rattled like crazy, certain things didn't work any more.
My green 300 is the best vehicle I've ever owned. I have a green 200, too.
Both excellent trucks!
