Snorkel on a Gasser?

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wardharris

wardharris

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A fairly simple question - is there any value to be had from fitting a snorkel to a gas engine?

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I understand the advantage of cooler/denser air for diesels.

I also understand the sex appeal of a chunk of PVC hangin' off the A pillar, along with the many stimulating conversations to be had at gas stations...

No plans to ford rivers, creeks or streams, but I would like to maximize the output, efficiency and longevity of my rig.....plus, my wife thinks snorkels are cool.

If it is worthwhile to build an air box for a Vortec swap (see some Torfab snaps below), why not continue the air intake tubing through a modified OEM air filter, then through the fender and into the base of a snorkel, bypassing the engine compartment completely as a source for air??

Guess I could post this question on the 80 series board (as I see a lot of 80s with OEM, Safari and other snorkels on gas motors) but 7X guys are my preferred source of intel and advice on tech, grooming, marital affairs, etc..

Love to hear your thoughts, gents.

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I also understand the sex appeal of a chunk of PVC hangin' off the A pillar, along with the many stimulating conversations to be had at gas stations...
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You mean "sex appeal" and "stimulating conversations" isn't reason enough? ..... I guess I should take mine off then.
All jokes aside, I also don't plan on crossing any rivers however one of the pluses of living in the rural south is the abundance of secondary roads ( fancy word for dirt roads ) and the height of the snorkel assures more clean air reaching the filter and the engine. That's reason enough for me.
 
You might get more benefit from installing the OEM filter and box or a later version.
As to snorkels, I've had them with/without and there is no noticeable difference. Cant see it making any difference to the longevity either.
I have one on my troopie fitted by the PO ,but I wouldn't have bought one.
 
You might get more benefit from installing the OEM filter and box or a later version.
As to snorkels, I've had them with/without and there is no noticeable difference. Cant see it making any difference to the longevity either.
I have one on my troopie fitted by the PO ,but I wouldn't have bought one.
 
You might get more benefit from installing the OEM filter and box or a later version.
As to snorkels, I've had them with/without and there is no noticeable difference. Cant see it making any difference to the longevity either.
I have one on my troopie fitted by the PO ,but I wouldn't have bought one.
 
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Stimulating conversation and sex appeal might be the tie breaker. :)
 
I put on a Safari snorkel on my FJ70 a few years back. I like the looks, it is great conversation starter... that being said. I dont think I would do it again. The risk factor involved when going out with friends that dont have one makes you the 1st one in the water every time. In order for them to be truly water tight, you need to do several modifications on top of the actual fitment. I didnt feel any increase in performance, and the air filter (original air filter with oil) is still just as dirty as before.

The Safari snorkels are truly just a way to move the real intake higher. If you are planning on doing it for the air quality, i would suggest going with a pre cleaner like this: http://www.4x4connection.com/tech/snorkeltech.htm

Other than that, I think its truly for looks. After all, its not like Im going into any type of water above the hood in a rag top FJ70.

Hope it helps!
 
wardharris said:
Guess I could post this question on the 80 series board (as I see a lot of 80s with OEM, Safari and other snorkels on gas motors)
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Wade into these waters with caution. There are many threads in the 80 section regarding snorkle vs. no snorkle and everyone (EVERYONE) has an opinion. Your head will be spinning with the answers you get.

I have one on an 80, and while there are many reasons to get one (water crossing, dust, temps, chicks, etc.); I put mine on because it is an OEM snorkle and I am a dork like that. I have also admitted that I wouldn't do it again. I removed a perfectly functioning antenna, cut holes in an undented fender and drilled holes in my A pillar. I dont regret it.... I just wouldn't do it again.
I don't intend on utilizing it to it's full capacity, but like a winch, it is there if needed.

In short. It really just matters on what you want.
 
You say you won't be doing any water crossings... Ok how about deep mud puddles ? I run a diesel... And got my snorkel after dropping into a relatively small puddle.... checked the filter box a few days later to see mud swirl marks inside..... Next day one was ordered.. Now placement of the OEM intake did not help....But its cheap insurance compared to an engine rebuild.... Gassers are a little different. Can get away with a bit of water.....Compressions are lower so room for the foreign body....
The design of your new air box can help by having the intake high and away from the guards..
 
I appreciate the combined wisdom and wit. I don't NEED a Landcruiser, but I WANT one.... so I have one.

I don't NEED a snorkel on a gasser, but I WANT one (dust, temps, chicks.....)

In fact, my wife is the driver behind this topic as she has a "thing" for snorkels. Yes, snide/snarky comments no doubt forthcoming, but we saw Dante's Peak when we were dating (last century) and she was taken with the 'Burban that drove through rivers. She's had a snorkel fondness ever since.

We'll see, but she's convinced that if one of our LCs had a snorkel, she could do this...

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I don't need a 70 cause I have an 80...
That settles it. You get a snorkel and I'll get a 70.
Everyone wins.!!
 
I don't need a 70 cause I have an 80...
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Don't be fooled by the math ...... This is one of those rare occasions where the smaller number is actually far greater than the larger number. :hillbilly:
 
Gun Runner 5 said:
I don't need a 70 cause I have an 80...
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Don't be fooled by the math ...... This is one of those rare occasions where the smaller number is actually far greater than the larger number. :hillbilly:
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:popcorn: need a polymath here. looks like sex appeal wins. and go cart tires.
 
Yes. Maybe I should clarify my statement.
I don't NEEEED a 70. I have done the math and concluded that despite the fact that I have an 80, I should have a 70 as well.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
@wardharris - post pics of the snorkel install.
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I need a fj45. Oh and hurry up and install that pvc chunk of manliness....
 
the gimpey one said:
I need a fj45. Oh and hurry up and install that pvc chunk of manliness....
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...... "PVC chunk of manliness" ......
I wonder if that would fit on a novelty tag. :)
 
wardharris said:
A fairly simple question - is there any value to be had from fitting a snorkel to a gas engine?

I understand the advantage of cooler/denser air for diesels.

I also understand the sex appeal of a chunk of PVC hangin' off the A pillar, along with the many stimulating conversations to be had at gas stations...

No plans to ford rivers, creeks or streams, but I would like to maximize the output, efficiency and longevity of my rig.....plus, my wife thinks snorkels are cool.

Love to hear your thoughts, gents.
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Hi Ward,

My personal opinion on all these things, is that its better to have it and not to need it than needing it and not having it. I had a Safari Snorkel on my FJ60 in Venezuela (with a Gasoline Powered 2F), and it might have been my perception, but I felt that the engine ran a little smoother, a little faster, and a little happier (but again, it might have been just my imagination). On the other hand, I see the advantage of bringing colder air to the intake, so in that, it is already an advantage.

Now, I know you mentioned that you will not be having plans of crossing rivers and such, but, you never know the day that you are driving the truck and your only option to move forward (or get out of where you are) is to cross a river, creek, or lake. I know that everybody will have an opinion, and perhaps much different than mine, but these are my 2 cents.

Just to add some photos to this thread, here are a few of Gasoline Powered FZJ71's (1FZ engine) and an FJ40 (2F engine) crossing obstacles that would be questionable (and a bad idea) to cross without proper vehicle equipment, and a snorkel.

-Alberto

P.S. These are from a trip we did to get to Angel Falls (the Tallest Waterfalls in the World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Falls)

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