Smallest front sway bar?

[eyesoreracing]

I can't be the first to try this, but all my searches are failing. The front sway bar on the 470 (non KDSS) is huge, and causes way too much side-to-side head toss off road. For a while I would remove it at the trail head and re-install when I got back to pavement. Then I got lazy and just left it off, but on-road cornering performance obviously suffers. Then I added front durobumps to try to reduce on-road body roll a little while maintaining smooth off-road ride. Every solution is a compromise, obviously, and I want to try a different compromise now. Is the 470 front sway bar geometry shared with any smaller, lighter trucks? Is there an I4 Tundra, or something somewhere in the world with a smaller front sway bar that will bolt up?

Please forgive my ignorance of truck parts interchages. I've been a snooty car guy all my life and always turned my nose up at all you guys with knobbies at the mall. Now I'm one of you...

 

[rommelrommel]

Maybe a tacoma bar could work but I haven't seen anyone try this.

 

[VSPro9]

I can't be the first to try this, but all my searches are failing. The front sway bar on the 470 (non KDSS) is huge, and causes way too much side-to-side head toss off road. For a while I would remove it at the trail head and re-install when I got back to pavement. Then I got lazy and just left it off, but on-road cornering performance obviously suffers. Then I added front durobumps to try to reduce on-road body roll a little while maintaining smooth off-road ride. Every solution is a compromise, obviously, and I want to try a different compromise now. Is the 470 front sway bar geometry shared with any smaller, lighter trucks? Is there an I4 Tundra, or something somewhere in the world with a smaller front sway bar that will bolt up?

Please forgive my ignorance of truck parts interchages. I've been a snooty car guy all my life and always turned my nose up at all you guys with knobbies at the mall. Now I'm one of you...

im not sure which forum it was on, but i have read of people making a quick disconnect for the sway bars. might be worth looking into?

 

[eyesoreracing]

im not sure which forum it was on, but i have read of people making a quick disconnect for the sway bars. might be worth looking into?

Quick disconnect won't work with this front suspension layout. The disconnected end will hit the outer CV joint. I wish it was that easy...

 

[aztoytec]

A 4th gen V6 4 Runner maybe smaller(?)

 

[HomersCanyonero]

Quick disconnect won't work with this front suspension layout. The disconnected end will hit the outer CV joint. I wish it was that easy...

There are threads in here about building a front sway bar end link to do a quick release (not disconnect) of the front swaybar. Essentially, you release a pin and the end link allows the sway bar to move, but not disconnect. When you wanted to connect it back, you would insert the pin back to hold the sway bar.

Here's a video of the quick disconnect or semi-disconnect or quick release. I've been wanting to try this, but havent.

 

[Jstawgn]

2005+ 4 cylinder short wheel base tacoma might be the smallest one. Don't have any data but they are the lightest of the family and technical they would need the least roll resistance.

 

[eyesoreracing]

2005+ 4 cylinder short wheel base tacoma might be the smallest one. Don't have any data but they are the lightest of the family and technical they would need the least roll resistance.

Thank you. This is just the info I was looking for, as I'm not clear on where this family tree goes. I'll look into the 4cyl Tacoma.

 

[eyesoreracing]

2005+ 4 cylinder short wheel base tacoma might be the smallest one. Don't have any data but they are the lightest of the family and technical they would need the least roll resistance.

Ok, I did a little research on Moog replacement front sway bar bushings, as some of these list the bar diameter. Some also list application. None list both diameter and application. Ugh...

All told, there are references to the following sizes:

30mm (same as my gx470)
29mm
28mm
27mm
24mm

Can't really make heads or tails out of which ones come on which models, and can't really trust that they all exist, but I'm on the lookout for that 24mm...

 

[rommelrommel]

I looked at rockauto and there is definitely a 24mm bar on some tacomas, a trip to a pick and pull with decent inventory might get the best results.