Slee Dual Carrier Bumper

[sleeoffroad]

Looks great! I like the color too...I am trying to figure out a way to use high-end mountain bike parts to fab a remote lever-actuated mechanism that inserts between the ball and the pin bracket. Pulling the lever (mounted on the driver's side of the tire bracket), pushes the ball up and therefore you don't have to reach over to the pass side. If the system lever system fails, you fall back to using the ball in the regular fashion.

I do know this is a pain, but there is a reason for the pin being on the hub side and not the end of the swing-out. I would love to see what you come up with a remote lifter. I am always trying to figure out how to build a better mouse trap.

 

[DallasCrzr]

The swing out is a little cumbersome to open due to the fact you have to pull up on the spring pin and kind of lift the other end of the swing out at one time

You are not lifting up the arm. You have to unlatch the arm, pull up the spring-loaded pin by the spindle then swing out the arm.

Right but the above quote by Jason makes it sound as if after you undo the red latch, you have to pull the pin AND lift up on the opposite side of the swing at once...this makes me think something is wrong.

When I first installed mine, after I got the damn bearing seal in, I had to lift the gate to be able to pull the pin because the pin was getting stuck on the side of its hole. It turned out that my rubber stopper was a little too long and not allowing the gate to shut quite enough for the pin to clear the side of the hole so it would go in but get stuck agains the side. So I shaved off about 2mm of the stopper and the pin is now easy to pull out.

I might be reading this wrong though

 

[pfran42]

I do know this is a pain, but there is a reason for the pin being on the hub side and not the end of the swing-out. I would love to see what you come up with a remote lifter. I am always trying to figure out how to build a better mouse trap.

It is simple in theory (and we all know how that usually turns out). I wanted to add to the existing swing-out retaining system without affecting how it currently works and at the same time being able to fall back to it in the event of a remote mechanism failure.

It is a bracketed washer that goes in between the pin bracket and pin bracket retaining nut. This part acts like an anchor for a high-end mountain bike shifter/brake cable. Another washer w/bracket would be added between the existing ball and pin. It extends in a manner that allows pull on the cable to push the retaining pin up. It might not even need a spring as the built-in spring is fairly strong.

Still playing around with parts and materials from my bike parts bins.

 

[spressomon]

I added the same pin assembly on the latch side...bored the swingarm so its inboard rather than welded to the outside of the swingarm tube (looks better IMO). And then welded the closed position shut on the hinge pin side. Works great. Convenient too.

I assume its the liability of 'if you forget to latch it' that concerns you Christo on the above fix?

 

[Mxndrnks]

but there is a reason for the pin being on the hub side and not the end of the swing-out.

Can you elaborate more or is this a hush hush trick to your bumper?? I only ask because my BOIR bumper has the pin at the end of the swing-out and I have not noticed it being an issue after a year of using it....

I just curious why one way might be better than the other.

 

[pfran42]

Can you elaborate more or is this a hush hush trick to your bumper?? I only ask because my BOIR bumper has the pin at the end of the swing-out and I have not noticed it being an issue after a year of using it....

I just curious why one way might be better than the other.

The BIO also has strut that in theory should keep the swing-arm open. Slee placed the locking pin on the swing-arm hub side so that there is a double safety built in. It locks open and closed. BIO will lock closed but you have to rely on the struts to hold the swing-arm open.

Two good designs, each with positive points and drawbacks.

 

[Mxndrnks]

Thanks Pfran!

 

[Nottajeep]

Yeah, I have to slightly lift the swing out arm and pull the spring pin in tandem. The swing out arm kind of leans in on the pad even when unlatched. The rubber/plastic pad may wear down over time and eliminate the need to pull up on the swing out arm while also pulling up on the spring pin, but this also is a close fit by design to keep everything snugged up when driving down the road as I see it today..

Not a big deal for me, but haven't seen the attempt it yet either.

Right but the above quote by Jason makes it sound as if after you undo the red latch, you have to pull the pin AND lift up on the opposite side of the swing at once...this makes me think something is wrong.

When I first installed mine, after I got the damn bearing seal in, I had to lift the gate to be able to pull the pin because the pin was getting stuck on the side of its hole. It turned out that my rubber stopper was a little too long and not allowing the gate to shut quite enough for the pin to clear the side of the hole so it would go in but get stuck agains the side. So I shaved off about 2mm of the stopper and the pin is now easy to pull out.

I might be reading this wrong though

 

[sleeoffroad]

Can you elaborate more or is this a hush hush trick to your bumper?? I only ask because my BOIR bumper has the pin at the end of the swing-out and I have not noticed it being an issue after a year of using it....
I just curious why one way might be better than the other.

Well, I guess some competitors will eventually figure out why it is not on that end.

We wanted to make 100% sure that if the latch jumps open, or people forget to latch it that the swingout will not open. You can not be 100% if it is on the other end. I am looking into what can be done to have it on the latch side, but still retain the 100% confidence.

 

[Blackwater]

Kind of getting off the current subject matter here,
Christo, any idea of the timeframe of the shorter ladder?


With doing a little digging it looks like some folks have the regular size ladder WITH the stock wind deflector( not the whale tale).
I think on my end there has been some confusion as to if the taller ladder works with the stock wind deflector or not. (i realize the taller ladder does NOT fit with the 05+ whale tale) I have seen some folks with both, and some that have ripped the deflector off. Any insight here??

Hope this makes sense LOL

 

[re_guderian]

Still playing around with parts and materials from my bike parts bins.

You need a pre-index-shifting thumb shifter.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Kind of getting off the current subject matter here,
Christo, any idea of the timeframe of the shorter ladder?

All current ladders are short. We have a couple of long bumpers in stock.

With doing a little digging it looks like some folks have the regular size ladder WITH the stock wind deflector( not the whale tale).
I think on my end there has been some confusion as to if the taller ladder works with the stock wind deflector or not. (i realize the taller ladder does NOT fit with the 05+ whale tale) I have seen some folks with both, and some that have ripped the deflector off. Any insight here??

Hope this makes sense LOL

Long ladder fits small black deflector, but not the whale tail.

 

[Nottajeep]

Anyone worry about sidewall damage long term from the hi lift clamp rubbing?

I put a piece of cloth in between for now.

 

[Mxndrnks]

^^^ I thought you could adjust the tire mount out further on the Slee. Or have you already adjusted it out as far as it will go?

 

[Mxndrnks]

double post...

 

[jonharis]

^^^ Just remove the clamp.... It is completely unnecessary due to how the jack attaches. I think you want to keep the tire tight against the carrier to keep vibrations to a minimum. Mine is (was) set up the same way.

 

[hoser]

Well, I think keeping the clip is a good ideal. It's a bit of a safety feature to keep the handle in the upright position during use.

 

[jonharis]

Well, I think keeping the clip is a good ideal. It's a bit of a safety feature to keep the handle in the upright position during use.

I agree, keep it, just not on the rack. Mine lives in the door cubby with the recovery gloves and shackle. I had the same concern and question when I installed mine and just didn't feel good about leaving it.

 

[Mxndrnks]

Just wanted to point out that the same pin rubs my tire on my BOIR bumper. Over a year that way and no signs of wear. BTW, I really think if it were an issue, Slee would have addressed it by now.

 

[Kigiin]

Anyone having the springs in the locking pin break?