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I've got a 95 LC with about 90k miles. I've noticed the driver side front tire is wearing badly on the outside edge. First obvious guess would be to get an alignment....is there anything unique about landcruisers that would require more pain?
 
With the exception of toe in there is no adjustments for alignment. So, provided that the wheel bearings are installed correctly and the trunions are good, then you have to look deeper, possibly a bent axle, especially if it was in an accident.
 
From your low post count, I'm assuming you're new and guessing that the truck is new to you? If so, you may not know where the funny wear came from as the previous owner may have rotated it. What kind of tire is it, and are all 4 tires identical in tread depth, brand, and size?

DougM
 
Just a suggestion (perhaps other guys with more experience can comment) but after checking the wheel bearings, wouldn't wheel alignment check (4 wheel?) be worthwhile considering it's not expensive.

Granted there's only the toe-in to adjust but at least it would indicate if there is any damage and that the axles are true.
 
I have this experience to relate. My brother in law's 93 wears the rears on the outside. At my urging, he took it in for alignment checks not once, but twice after the first guy found nothing wrong. Finally, I asked to see the paper work so he went back and requested it and sent it to me. In both cases the shop software said "no data - not adjustable" for the rear wheels and they simply took his $80 and told him "everything's fine". This EVEN THOUGH he specifically told them he was worried about a rear wheel issue. Lazy thieving bastards.

So, a "4 wheel alignment" on an 80 will not get you much unless you find someone with a machine that can be manually overridden to check the alignment on a vehicle even though it's rear wheels are a hole in the data. And someone willing to do what you want. Just a word to the wise to be sure and request the actual data.

DougM
 
Putting an 80 on a rack without first knowing that the mechanicals are good is a waste of time and money and won't help you find the problem. This is because the wheel bearings, trunions and even spindle wear can introduce error. So the first logical thing to do is a full front end rebuild, then with new tires take it down to the rack and see what comes of it.

Because you suspect a problem make sure the axle work is done by someone with experience with these and is aware he should look extra close for anything that would cause your tire wear problem.
 
I had no idea that only toe was adjustable....My 80 got new shoes the 2nd day I had it, tracked straight enough, but I took it in for alignment anyway....

Just looked at my before/after numbers, and my toe was adjusted, and it did make a difference....Tightened up the feel a good bit....again it was not bad, but was worth the money anyway IMO....

I should have had the mechanicals checked I guess but at the time (and now even) I lacked the knowledge of how the front end works....So I guess I'll ride it out for awhile until I need to go in...Still looking for someone who knows these rigs enough to trust working on it while I collect tools and service manuals (not to mention a few more bananas) to try anything above fluid/pad changes...
 
It looks like the opposite side rear is also worn like the drivers side front...my guess is a tire rotation did that. I recently bought it from a SoCal soccer mom and she was almost religious about maintenance and service. No accidents per the previous owner (and as far as I can tell) and it's never been off the pavement. The other two tires have worn about the same as the insides of the two "bad" tires (ie. not much wear). The tires (per all the records) are about 30k miles old. I was planning on getting new tires....just not so soon. Oh well. I'll try the alignment and have the front end looked at to see if there is anything else.

Thanks for your inputs!!!!

-mt
 
cmtierney said:
It looks like the opposite side rear is also worn like the drivers side front...my guess is a tire rotation did that. I recently bought it from a SoCal soccer mom and she was almost religious about maintenance and service. No accidents per the previous owner (and as far as I can tell) and it's never been off the pavement. The other two tires have worn about the same as the insides of the two "bad" tires (ie. not much wear). The tires (per all the records) are about 30k miles old. I was planning on getting new tires....just not so soon. Oh well. I'll try the alignment and have the front end looked at to see if there is anything else.

Thanks for your inputs!!!!

-mt

please remember Doug post #5 above. Make sure they will give you numbers for the other parameters (not just toe in) before having them start. The whole point of the alignment check is to understand how the true the system is (not to just adjust the toe-in).

The folks here have the numbers (in the FSM). I'm too lazy to go look it up but I'm sure it's here if you search.
 
The FSM probably has the alignment specs you need. Get an alignment, get the report and compare. It will give you a direction to look.


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