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SuperBuickGuy said:
I like the braces, did you put rubber between the pad and the body?
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No need, I didn't want any place for the cage to get loose which could happen with any kind of isolator. Essentially the cage is an extension of the frame.
 
SuperBuickGuy said:
well, I apologize for not creating a vehicle or title you like. Thanks so much for the input.

just for the record, it was joking about overland...
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You forgot the joke tags, it came off as genuine criticism.

Building a vehicle that is capable of covering extremely long distances in remote areas, basically self sustained, is every bit as difficult as building a rock crawler, the people who do it are not a joke. You can build whatever vehicle you want, I never criticized your choice. If you ask I would tell you what I think of the FJ40 as a platform for overland, but you never ask.

As far as the title, well the title should describe the article, from your own post you don't really describe your project as and overland truck. You describe it as an offshoot of your SAR activities with a RTT on top. Which sound like what you are building. By the way good on you for making the commitment to SAR, I looked into it and decided it would take way more of my time than I was willing to devote.

If you don't think the title of your thread describes what you are building I'm sure one of the mods would be more than happy to edit it for you.
 
Last year's NW Overland Rally.
this clearly


not me, but look at the vehicles


Overland Journal's Jeep


I honestly liked this one the best... but this year, I'll be sure to tell him he's not overlanding ;) because that one's mods are a place for the dog and a RTT.


note the mazda overlanding rig in the front


and that Series IIa, I'm sure he needs to know it's not overlanding either - he doesn't even have a RTT!!!


this set up was by far and away the most popular set up...


is this overlanding?


This guy never came out of his rig all weekend, yet they let him into the Overland rally


this guy writes a blog about overlanding, but I guess he's uninformed too?


So I don't quite get your criticism... all of those rigs are, according to the masses there, overland rigs. The common thread is reliable - that's it. The way people follow a vehicle is by having a name that's not in common usage. This one started as FJ40verland on the FJ40 side but once I moved from leaf springs to one-tons it really isn't a stock FJ40, matter of fact, it's basically a shell on a melange of parts... and I'm sorry you disagree, you certainly are entitled to your opinion. Why you want drama, I don't know

anyway, I'll be back to building tonight.
 
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roll cage day
floor plates

fortunately, these are right over the top of the body mount so I really don't have to do anything underneath

trial fit


brother did I agonize over where to put this


with the door on, there's an issue.... and I don't think it's actually solveable in a way that I like. I like wing-windows, but it doesn't open with the cage

I could open the door, then the wing window then close the door... I suppose, but even that isn't optimal...


at least there's plenty of clearance for the window crank (which doesn't work so I'll replace it with electric, full width windows


then I thought seriously about this


had I bought a straight cage, I might have done it.... but not here, the bulge doesn't work


so notch

too much gap

and grind


and tack


and center bars


I may dink more later, but for now... hasta
 
Some decisions have been made

I went with grey suspension seats. Awhile ago, I asked Omix Aida and Smittybilt to donate to Search and Rescue, they did - quite generously - so whenever I get the chance to return the favor, I do... Thus, the seats are Smittybilt - but they only come in grey or black. I'm not doing another black interior on a convertible, so grey it is - but that leaves an issue as it doesn't really match the exterior colors... so I don't know, I may get seat covers or simply have the covers remade in tan or brown. Or I might simply paint the outside some form of grey and call it a day.

I also finally got the Novak 32 spline output for the dana 300. I hesitated on that because, while it shortens the output 2", it also requires an electronic speedometer. Whether I buy it now or when I need it (like next fall), I've got the solution for that as the Dakota Digital dash (it's not LCD, it's analog gauges). I figured that by the time I got the right gauges for the EFI, that I'd be at the DD gauge pod - and they look petty neat too - so why not.

of course, all this means is I have to wait a bit before lift-off for the seats to arrive so that I can build the door bars... probably also means some modification is going to be required for the box I just built... c'est la vie.
 
SuperBuickGuy said:
<sniped a bunch of pictures of cars parked in a field>

So I don't quite get your criticism... all of those rigs are, according to the masses there, overland rigs. The common thread is reliable - that's it. The way people follow a vehicle is by having a name that's not in common usage. This one started as FJ40verland on the FJ40 side but once I moved from leaf springs to one-tons it really isn't a stock FJ40, matter of fact, it's basically a shell on a melange of parts... and I'm sorry you disagree, you certainly are entitled to your opinion. Why you want drama, I don't know

anyway, I'll be back to building tonight.
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I never said anything about your choice of truck or your build, I ask how the term overland applied to your build when you stated you carry everything you need in your SAR packs. I also commented about your remark on Overlanding forums.

90FJ said:
"Overlanding" is just an a******'s word for camping right?

I say you can overland in whatever you want, I overland the **** out of my 1993 Nissan NX t-top.

H3s are cool, nice job on the 40.
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In general Overlanding refers to self sustained trips to remote areas, usually of longer duration than the typical weekend camping trip. And you can overland in whatever you want, there are stories of people driving from England to Cape Town in a London Taxi. However some vehicles are better suited for extended travel in remote areas than others.
I don't think I've ever run into an a****** Overlander. They are without fail kind considerate people who would take as much time as needed to get you back on the road if they found you broke down, give you fuel and refuse payment, and share whatever other resources they had with you in time of need.
 
By your definition Gypsies are overlanders and they are all assholes.

Why would anyone camp somewhere that's not remote? I just assume people who camp in non-remote places are homeless, and fxxx those guys I'm not giving them s***, I mean Obama already gave them IPhones and healthcare.

Overland or camping I don't care what you call it, but you obviously shouldnt take well-built FJ40s so I agree with RustyTLC lets have a mod change the name of the thread. It's a damned abomination, confiscate his HAM walkie-talkie and strip him of his search and rescue stickers.
 
the picture of cars in a field was last year's NW Overland Rally.

rusty_tlc said:
I never said anything about your choice of truck or your build, I ask how the term overland applied to your build when you stated you carry everything you need in your SAR packs. I also commented about your remark on Overlanding forums.
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and you also misquoted me... what the hell is your problem? every one of your gripes are stupid little things that, frankly, doesn't make any difference to anyone. you don't like the thread, it's a free country - you can simply go away. Or is that the deal, you simply want to ruin it for everyone else with your piss-poor attitude and arrogance?
 
To my knowledge, the doors are the same dimension up to 78. 79-84 had different hardtop dimensions but I do not know if the doors were the same or not.
 
SuperBuickGuy said:
the picture of cars in a field was last year's NW Overland Rally.



and you also misquoted me... what the hell is your problem? every one of your gripes are stupid little things that, frankly, doesn't make any difference to anyone. you don't like the thread, it's a free country - you can simply go away. Or is that the deal, you simply want to ruin it for everyone else with your piss-poor attitude and arrogance?
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You are right I should be more considerate of other peoples opinions when I post.

By way of atonement;
If you plan to mount your comm radio between the spreaders, an excellent location IMHO, make sure you space the bars so you can access the mounting brackets screws.
This thread has some pictures of how I used trick tabs to mount various ham radio components to my cage.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/silly-ham-trick-tabs-are-for-radios.308696/

You can see that because my spreaders are close I had to drop the radio mounts down so I could access the screws easily. I'd rather it was tucked up a little higher. Other than that the location is almost perfect, when I have the dual band radio in there I can quickly see which band is active.
 
Cool great photos. I like how you can visualize something and make it happen. Mine is more like visualize, disassemble, destroy, ponder, replace.
 
there is some of that in this post... the hardest part, for me, is cutting something that is good enough to replace it for a bit better, in part because it's more work, but also because sometimes it's a bit worse.

new part, 32 spline output from Novak - I had to decide, either easy emergency brake or 2" more room for a rear driveshaft...


that said, I have an idea now how it's going to go together with an e-brake

looks like I went backwards, huh? I like to post the middle steps, and the middle step was even up the top of the tunnel then build a new, upper panel (this time out of 16 ga since it's permanent)


and there we go, tacked in place


and yeah, I know you all think I'm nuts to do all this work for 2" more of foot space and a bit more room behind the dash, oh well.
 
Actually 2 inches of behind the dash space is a lot and in my mind worth it. Having to work behind a dash is hard enough then with the little space even a little guy like me 5' 5" and small hands it's hard
 
so I got a bit of welding done... a ways to go, but since I needed to get the Corvette back in the shop, I put the rig back together to double check fit... it fits (yay)






and shop is clean - in my many years of doing sheet metal and construction work I got into the habit of cleaning my work space at the end of each week... so the shop is clean, tools are away, so I can mess it all up again on Sunday.
 
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