Rusty Split Rims

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I bought these split rims a while ago and finally got around to taking off the old tires. It took a lot of time and effort because the tires were literally rusted to the rim, but I finally got one tire off. In the first photo you can still see the remnants of the tire as I tool a jigsaw and cut the tire off.

My question is, is this ring ok to use or is it too rusty? Or can it even be repaired?

The worst rust is right near the split in the ring, otherwise what you see on the outside is good, but the innermost part is thin.

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I refurbished a set of rusty rims last year. The rims were quite pitted, maybe not as much as yours though.

Some of the rings had similar corrosion. The important part is the lip that locks under the rim. The rest is for the tire to push against. My experience to date is that they are working well.

I sand blasted and used tremclad primer and paint. The paint is not holding up well to weather and wheeling.
 
Thanks 45Kevin.

That's good news! :)

I read your post with your rusted splits and everyone there said they were toast so I thought I was in trouble.
 
I personally wouldn't trust a lock ring that is corroding like that, Hofflarr.

I was a little apprehensive myself to begin with. But after I understood how the lock ring works,I am quite comfortable using a slightly less than perfect ring.

I have done some hard wheeling with the wheels, as well as flat towing the truck to CA. I had a complete FF rear axle and two or three trany/t-cases in the bed, as well as all my camping gear. So the wheels had weight on them.

Hofflar, be sure to knock off the sharp edges on the metal so you don't damage your tire. Contact GreaseCruiser on this form. He was selling later model 5 stud splits, but may sell you the rings only. If he does, let me know and I'll buy a set as well.
 
I have got 3 more tires off the rims. So far the first one is the worst. Two are pretty good and the last is corroded, but not as bad as the others.

Thankfully I bought more than I need because of the rarity of these rims. I really only 1 for my missing spare, but I bought more in case I make a trailer or for whatever in the future.

Ring 1 - Pretty good shape

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Rims

And two of the rims themselves. They are the two from the good rings. The third one still has half the tire stuck to it; it looks more like the rim in the first post.

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Yeah, those look very similar to how mine looked when I got them.
 
Blasted!

Ok,

Got my rims back from the blaster. Had them at Easter but went to celebrate my Grandma's 95th birthday so did not have a chance to do anything with them until now.

So I am a bit surprised with the pitting on these things in my newb experince with rust and sandblasting, I thought that the rust would be "surface" rust and after sanblasting they would be smoother.

The insides are really bad, but I don't care too much about that because unless you change a tire, you will never see it. For the parts that can be seen, it looks like I have a couple of pretty good rims, a couple that are not too bad and then another two that look like a teenager with acne.

I guess it's not that bad, but had I known how bad it was I don't think I would have been willing to pay as much as I did. Oh well, lesson learned.

Here are some pics in primer for now. I bought some used tires so those will be on the rims soon.

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More Pics

Hard to see from the pic, but the insides of the rims are really pitted.

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Hi fill primer and they will be just fine.

BTW, I used trem-clad primer and then a grey top coat and they are showing rust all ready. When they get wet the water accumulates at the bottom of theinside diamerterof the rim and sits there. So rust is inevitable I guess.

My suggestion is to get a good epoxy paint, or powder coat them.
 
45Kevin, are you running any liners? mine aren't as bad as Hofflarrs rims, but there is some areas of pitting that extend into innertube area. i've heard the liners are thick and make it more difficult to balance, so i wasn't planning on running them

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I was thinking that my rims had excessive rust, but I am now starting to think that they are typical of what can be found in North America these days.

Jim, yours look pretty close to mine. I had one ring that was really rusted but the others were quite good. I can't speak for Kevin, but I am going to put liners back in because of the rust issue.

Custom Coasters, those rims look really good and the price is awesome! They look like they are welded together whereas the ones we have are riveted (see nuclearlemons pic). They also look like they were originally black and the fronts painted grey. Other than that, I can't see any other differences. Not sure what was stock for 1984, but they look like they would be fine.
 
45Kevin, are you running any liners? mine aren't as bad as Hofflarrs rims, but there is some areas of pitting that extend into innertube area. i've heard the liners are thick and make it more difficult to balance, so i wasn't planning on running them

Hey Ige, I am running liners. I got the tires tube and liners from John at Proffits. They were take-offs from the mine cruisers that Proffits bring in.

The rims had liners in them when I got them off an old 77 fj45. I don't know if they were OEM though.

The liners are quite thick in the middle, about 3/16" and taper out at the edges.

I doubt that any split, rivited rim would not have a liner.

I installed the tires myself and have not balanced them. They are wearing evenly and I get a slight vibration/shimmy over 60 mph, which the truck very seldom sees.
 
OK, so I finally got time to finish off my split rims. A few weeks ago I bought some used tires off of Kijiji for $100 a piece. From the information that I found here on Mud, I went with a LT285-85/R16, which everyone said was as close to 7.5x16 that you could get.

I didn't do anything to the rims to fill in the pitting as they will not be the rims that go onto the truck permanently so I did not want to send a lot of time making them look perfect. I just took some rattle can spray paint and painted them. I used 3 cans, but probably could have used 4.

I had to buy a new tube as I destroyed 3 out of the 6 taking off the old tires. I got the tube at Kal Tire at Yellowhead and 149 st. I went there because it handles large, commercial vehicles and I thought the chances would be better at getting what I needed, and I guess I was right, because they had a tube. It was around $30. I asked if I could get liners, but was told not. They guy told me that liners came with the tires.

So anyway, I reused the old liners, but had to scrape off as much of the rust as I could. I used a very dull chisel and a wire brush to do this and they came out not too bad.

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I've read the posts on how to change a tire on a split rim, but when it came down to doing it, I just found a way that worked for me. I found it necessary to place the rim on some scraps of plywood to just lift it off the ground to give some clearance for the tire since it is wider than the rim. I then placed the tube and the liner in the tire and slid the tire over the rim and worked the valve stem through the opening.

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I found to the get the ring on I would start at one end and then place a piece of scrap 2x4 over that part of the ring and tire and then kneel on the 2x4 and use a hammer (I used a hammer and a pice of scrap wood, but a rubber malet would probably be the best) to pound the ring in place, moving the 2x4 as I went. I found I needed to to use the 2x4 because until the ring was firmly set, it wanted to spring back up and out of place. Keeping my weight on it kept it in place.

Because of all I had read about the "danger" in filling the tires with air, I bought a locking air chuck with a pressure guage on it and then added another hose extension so I could inflate the tire from a safe distance. In the pic above the blue part of the hose is what I added. After actually going through the exercise though I would feel confident next time just using a regular air chuck. Once those rings snap into place and the tire is seated correctly, you just know there is no where for the rings to go.

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I put air in from the backside of the wheel. I stick my hand through the center hole and fill it until the tire is snug. Then I lay the tire down and inspect the ring to be sure it is seated. The odd time I will bang it with a rubber mallet.

Then from behind again I will finish airing it up.

It's just that easy.
 

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