Rubithon - This aint no Jamboree Baby!

[peesalot]

welcome strranger

 

[petescoffee]

Can't believe I missed this thread this long!

petescoffee, a box of registration swag is on its way to you Monday.

Dave, PMing you.

Thanks Mark!!

Dave

 

[woooody]

Dave -- Get a hold of Mark Watkins -- I guess they have a bunch of stuff for you.

 

[LukeZero]

30 days


and counting

 

[FJ40-GARAGE]

30 days


and counting

And hoping that all the Euro Cruiser Brothers [ECB] get a seat somehow....... as it seems now we will have to fight with 5 people for the seat Alvaro offered.

ANY offers are welcome, here or PM.

 

[woooody]

Depending on -- I may have a seat open on the Double Locker run in a 40...

The big question is how much gear are they planning on bringing? Packing double gear gets tough. - tent - clothes - sleeping bag - food...

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Peter-Are you guys going to be at the Wednesday start of the wagon run? Generally the wagons can pack in a bit of extra gear, and most passengers want to hike part or most of the trail, so I'm thinking as long as the euro group was not tied to riding the entire way, it should work out. One of our group (David) is already planning on hiking the entire trail (it's much faster than driving) and my son Jeff, after this weekend, thinks the wagons move too slow and he wants to hike as well, at least part of the time. Tell your friends to pack light.

 

[mickey_rubicon]

I dont have lockers in my 80, if somehow I could get a "no locker" pass from the run committee, I could offer 3 seats - starting Friday night though. I dont have enough vacation to start Wednesday. Just an idea to toss around. Feel free to PM me.

 

[woooody]

It's either a locker OR lower gears... What R&P do you have?

 

[mickey_rubicon]

It's either a locker OR lower gears... What R&P do you have?

I have 1993 FZJ80 with OME lift and 33 inch tires and original toyota factory R&P. I am in kind of a limbo I guess to be allowed on the runs for the event. My pickup with lockers needs a parking brake and my 80 series is open diff. Two birds in the bush none in the hands situation. It will be easier to fit a parking brake on my pickup than to re gear or lock the 80 in time. The only reason I considered the 80 is because it sounds like people need to fit into a vehicle. June 1st is around the corner, I will update by then if I solved my technical challenges.

 

[NorCalDoug]

Mickey - you need the locker...or you're gonna get pulled a WHOLE bunch. Get crackin' on that parking brake...sounds like that'll be the quicker solution for you.

 

[DaveWest5150]

who all is planning to attend the wed. breakfast run?
Tony can we get a list of people that are signed up?

 

[Dunkane]

Peter-Are you guys going to be at the Wednesday start of the wagon run? Generally the wagons can pack in a bit of extra gear, and most passengers want to hike part or most of the trail, so I'm thinking as long as the euro group was not tied to riding the entire way, it should work out. One of our group (David) is already planning on hiking the entire trail (it's much faster than driving) and my son Jeff, after this weekend, thinks the wagons move too slow and he wants to hike as well, at least part of the time. Tell your friends to pack light.

hi andrew !
we 'll pack light !, just like this, with a 2 places tent or maybe a hamac if there is no rain....and no bear (there is ???? lol , because i don't want to be "food for bears")

is it ok for you guys ?,by hiking...you want to say...by foot ???

 

[woooody]

A backpack is perfect

Yes hiking = by foot. It's a relatively easy hike... but you should be in good shape to do the whole trail. Thinner air/higher elevation.

Hammock -- I know many people that sleep without a tent. Yes, there are bears. I've rolled up in a tarp before, but it does get "dewey" (moist) at night, if there's little wind.

 

[alvarorb]

There are some many people snoring that bears won't be an issue. Specially if you put your hammock near my tent. I call it bear insurance...

Alvaro

 

[Dunkane]

There are some many people snoring that bears won't be an issue. Specially if you put your hammock near my tent. I call it bear insurance...

Alvaro

lol alvarorb, so you are my insurance to not meet a bear near my hammock, but i assume i'll not sleep at all, because you snore like a V8 chevy ?

i think i prefer the bear... ahahahah



just for pleasure, a picture of the TLC SERIE-4 FRANCE Association meeting, wich i'm the president, this was happened this week end
enjoy it ! (my bj43 is the third starting from the left side)

 

[petescoffee]

petescoffee, a box of registration swag is on its way to you Monday.

.

Mark,
Box arrived. Thanks for your support of the event again this year. Look forward to seeing you on the trail.
Dave

 

[pismojim]

I thought I'd post my direct reply to Dunkane for your comments and critiques.

Like I told him, just get himself to the trailhead and everything will work out OK.

Hi Dunkane,

I'm glad you are making the trip to Rubithon. You won't be
disappointed.

I guess you read my "hitchhiker's trip report" when I hiked the trail
for the first time.
<http://home.off-road.com/~cruiserhead/hiker.html>

Yes, it is easy to walk much faster than the vehicles. This is
especially true at Rubithon due to the large number of vehicles and
inexperienced drivers. It might take an hour to get a long line of
vehicles through a tough section of trail, where as you can walk
through in less than a minute. People get struck, break or just stop
for pictures. Walkers always get way ahead.

The best plan is to simply get yourself to the Loon Lake trail head
Tuesday night if you can. Position yourself at the trailhead to greet
people as they prepare to start the trail on Wednesday morning. I'll
be there too. Everyone is friendly and it will be easy to find someone
to carry your gear. You may even find a seat. If it doesn't happen
Wednesday, don't worry, groups continue to leave on Thursday and even
Friday morning.

Once you have someone carrying your gear, you can walk to the main
camp at Rubicon Springs in 5-6 hours. You'll be passing groups of
Land Cruisers the whole time.

I would have a day pack with water, snacks, etc. and a main pack with
sleeping bag, food, etc. That way you can have someone haul the main
pack while you hike with the smaller one. You only need to find the
vehicle with the main pack at the end of the day. This gives you more
freedom during the day. As I said, you can cover much more ground on
foot than in a vehicle.

You can drive your rental car to the Loon Lake trailhead. Obviously,
you'll have to return there on Sunday which means 1) carry your pack
and hike from Rubicon Springs main camp area. This would take about
5-6 hours. It would be the worse case and unlikely. 2) More likely,
you'll find someone driving out "backwards" to Loon on Sunday. Again,
they could carry your gear and you walk or you may even find a ride.
There are quite a few people driving back this way because they have
car trailers at Loon and don't drive their trail rigs on the street.
3) Another option is to find a ride out to Tahoe and then back around
to Loon on the street. A few people doing this, mainly to pick up
their car trailers.

Finally, don't worry if you can't get everything set up in advance.
Many people can't commit on the on-line forums but will help out face
to face. There will be lots of people willing to help, remember you
guys are celebrities!

People on the IH8MUD forum should be able to provide directions from
the airport to the trailhead. Remember, just get yourself there and
everything will work out.

There aren't any rooms or hotels nearby. The trail is a couple hours
away from Sacramento or Reno.

 

[woooody]

Only modification is that there are rooms at both Ice House and a Robbs

 

[petescoffee]

NEWS RELEASE
USDA Forest Service
Eldorado National Forest
100 Forni Road, Placerville, CA 95667
Date: May 24, 2007 Contact:Anthony Scardina
Release: Upon Receipt Phone: 530-621-5276
TTY 530-642-5122
Eldorado National Forest Continues to Implement Court Ordered
Restrictions on Wheeled Motor Vehicles Until a New Plan is Adopted
Placerville, CA…..Visitors to the Eldorado National Forest need to keep in mind that the national
forest remains under a 2005 court order that restricts wheeled motor vehicle travel to routes identified
on the Motor Vehicle Restrictions map. Travel off of routes identified on the map is prohibited. The
restriction map is available free-of-charge at all Eldorado National Forest offices.
Forest Supervisor Ramiro Villalvazo says that visitors who plan to camp outside of developed
campgrounds must park their wheeled motor vehicles on a route identified on the map, or within a
reasonable distance of the route so as not to block the travel way, create a safety hazard, or damage
vegetation and other forest resources.
“People have done a great job adjusting to the new restrictions over the past two years,” said
Villalvazo. “Visitors have generally responded well to the restrictions as we continue to help them
understand how to comply. However, when violations of the restrictions occur we will issue citations.”
The Eldorado National Forest continues to move forward toward completing a new wheeled
vehicle management plan that will designate a system of routes throughout the national forest as
ordered by the court in 2005. For the past two years, the Forest Service has been developing and
evaluating a preliminary range of alternative options to manage wheeled motorized vehicles on
existing routes throughout the national forest.
Eldorado National Forest Route Designation Team Leader Anthony Scardina, says that a
preliminary range of alternatives was discussed at public meetings last summer and that changes were
made to these preliminary alternatives before moving forward with the environmental analysis.
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A Draft Environmental Impact Statement is expected to be ready for review in early July. The
Forest Service’s preferred alternative will be identified in the DEIS. The Forest Service says all of the
alternatives were developed to be consistent with current federal laws, regulations, and policies; to
create a system of routes that can be better maintained and enforced, while providing high quality and
diverse motorized recreation opportunities; and to minimize impacts to forest resources.
“The route designation process has placed an emphasis on developing a system of routes that
create quality recreation experiences,” said Scardina.
A 45 day public review and comment period will follow the official release of the DEIS. The
information learned from the public will be evaluated by Ramiro Villalvazo who will issue his final
decision before December 31, 2007, the deadline set by the court in 2005.
Information about the route designation process is found of the Eldorado National Forest
website at: www.fs.fed.us/eldorado. Comments and questions can be e-mailed to
eldoradoroutes@fs.fed.us.
-FS