ROTM April - Pyeatt Payson AZ (1 Viewer)
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murf
Lifer
thanks Again CJ and Alyssa for the great trip!
Many great features of this run
* the fastest Ive been though Payette. It wasn't fast more than there just weren't massive delays, CJ kept the group moving.
* While the main group was gone, Abigail ran camp security from "Crouching Bear - Hidden Creeper"
* Dimples and wife ran the camp Chuckwagon and as usual supplied amazing food!
* Diesel kept his good humor even though his valve stem had the tip cut off it by a sharp rock and had to change his tire in the slot.
* Richard and Kyle stopped by in their built 80's for a night run up Payette and stopped to visit before and after.
* The only time Ive seen a club member make it up the waterfall - with a little guidance from Saddletramp, Lauren took care of business!
Lots of laughs and good company in some fantastic weather . Thanks to everyone that helped make this one to remember ~
Many great features of this run
* the fastest Ive been though Payette. It wasn't fast more than there just weren't massive delays, CJ kept the group moving.
* While the main group was gone, Abigail ran camp security from "Crouching Bear - Hidden Creeper"
* Dimples and wife ran the camp Chuckwagon and as usual supplied amazing food!
* Diesel kept his good humor even though his valve stem had the tip cut off it by a sharp rock and had to change his tire in the slot.
* Richard and Kyle stopped by in their built 80's for a night run up Payette and stopped to visit before and after.
* The only time Ive seen a club member make it up the waterfall - with a little guidance from Saddletramp, Lauren took care of business!
Lots of laughs and good company in some fantastic weather . Thanks to everyone that helped make this one to remember ~
Always a fun trip. Wish the trail was about twice as long (maybe run it in reverse next time?). Found out that 315-75x16 Nitto TGs at ZERO PSI work great on a lightweight 4Runner. Also the "fire under the hood" 
from a seized AC compressor coil makes for interesting lane changes into the WalMart parking lot. Pics later.
from a seized AC compressor coil makes for interesting lane changes into the WalMart parking lot. Pics later.
Always a fun trip. Wish the trail was about twice as long (maybe run it in reverse next time?). Found out that 315-75x16 Nitto TGs at ZERO PSI work great on a lightweight 4Runner. Also the "fire under the hood" from a seized AC compressor coil makes for interesting lane changes into the WalMart parking lot. Pics later.
from a seized AC compressor coil makes for interesting lane changes into the WalMart parking lot. Pics later.
Saddletramp
GOLD Star
Wow Marc, hope everything was ok.
It is now... a little scary there. Nothing like smoke coming out of the hood to get your attention.
I hope it was just smoke from the belt.
The belt was fried, also this is the coil afterwards. Compressor housing boiled water on contact. Yeah it was kinda hot.
Dissent
Questioning my life choices...
Excellent Run, thank you to @Chrismanjs for the spotting (and rock stacking)! Still amazed at how capable these trucks are out of the box. I learned a lot more about my truck and why trimmed mud flaps are a necessity for sharp ascension work. Nothing some JB Weld and a few new flare clips won't fix. 
Great gumbo from @Dimples and perfect weather for a nice escape from the Phoenix heat. The kids had a great time and I crammed in a lot of much needed Field R&D to get my camping load-out situated. Thank you to all for the great time!
Great gumbo from @Dimples and perfect weather for a nice escape from the Phoenix heat. The kids had a great time and I crammed in a lot of much needed Field R&D to get my camping load-out situated. Thank you to all for the great time!
Found out that 315-75x16 Nitto TGs at ZERO PSI - what happen?
murf
Lifer
Marc's tires weren't flexing at 10 psi and after playing with them ended up going to zero to get about the same flex (or less actually) as I did at 10psi on the 40.
He was saying that 35s in an 8 ply are too stiff of a sidewall for that light of a truck . He mentioned that he is thinking of going to 17's so he can drop to a 6 ply which are more flexible. After seeing his results, I agree!
Yes. I was really surprised to try the 2x2 air-down test. At zero PSI the tire is almost an inch off the ground (in the rear). So I decided to just let all the air out once on the trail. Since these tires are load range D and are rated to carry 3500 ponds at 50 PSI (oddly, Nitto doesn't list a weight carrying capacity at zero PSI)
and my entire truck weighs just 3300 or so with no top, it's not surprising. Those sidewalls are surprisingly stiff. So, a tire / wheel change is probably in the future.
Yes. I was really surprised to try the 2x2 air-down test. At zero PSI the tire is almost an inch off the ground (in the rear). So I decided to just let all the air out once on the trail. Since these tires are load range D and are rated to carry 3500 ponds at 50 PSI (oddly, Nitto doesn't list a weight carrying capacity at zero PSI)
Wow shows why the sidewalls are so tuff on the Nittos
Note - I have refined the air down test to a measured 1.25 x 1.25 I have found a 2x2 (measured 1.625 x 1.625 was to big for an average)
Curiosity has the best of me. Care to explain this test?
It's Phil's idea, but basically you jack up one wheel. Place a 2x2 (not sure if that's "dimensional lumber" size actually a 1.5" x 1.5" so I used a 1x2 on top which totalled a real 2"). Lower the tire onto the 2x2. Start letting air out. When the tire touches the ground on both sides of the 2x2, that's your optimum trail pressure.
When I did this, I had almost an inch of daylight between the ground and the tire. I went ahead and pulled the valve stem core. ZERO PSI.
That's on the back, I didn't test the front.
@LandCruiserPhil Please correct me if I'm wrong or feel free to chime in.
EDIT... I just noticed Phil's post above. I'll have to re-run this test and see what happens.
Aw now it makes sense. Thank you
Looks like everyone had a great time, sorry I missed it this year. Just wasn't gonna happen with Mama out of town...
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