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It is real easy to design research that will support a hypothesis.
What is someone not trained to interpret every detail of complex studies supposed to do to find accurate information about the world around them?
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It is real easy to design research that will support a hypothesis.
That is the million dollar question. I truly wish I had an answer. All I can suggest is to read everything you can put your hands on. Trouble is, you would spend every waking moment reading some dull, boring journal on some esoteric subject. Who has that kind of time?What is someone not trained to interpret every detail of complex studies supposed to do to find accurate information about the world around them?
That's the sub-point. Not to mention needing formal training in the relevant science to truly understand the methods, results and conclusions.That is the million dollar question. I truly wish I had an answer. All I can suggest is to read everything you can put your hands on. Trouble is, you would spend every waking moment reading some dull, boring journal on some esoteric subject. Who has that kind of time?
One of the most helpful pieces of advice I ever received is to hold in mind that our minds are prediction machines. We want to know and we strive to know and we can’t. Certainty doesn’t exist. We do have tools that help us make educated guesses, but it’s still all guesswork, some of it done in earnest and with acknowledgment of the limits of our ability to know, some of it done with less honest motives.That's the sub-point. Not to mention needing formal training in the relevant science to truly understand the methods, results and conclusions.
People are left finding someone they trust to interpret things for them.
And here we are..
What bothers me is when people use previous science being proved wrong as evidence that science shouldn't be trusted. While typing that into a modern cell phone...One of the most helpful pieces of advice I ever received is to hold in mind that our minds are prediction machines. We want to know and we strive to know and we can’t. Certainty doesn’t exist. We do have tools that help us make educated guesses, but it’s still all guesswork, some of it done in earnest and with acknowledgment of the limits of our ability to know, some of it done with less honest motives.
What bothers me is when people use previous science being proved wrong as evidence that science shouldn't be trusted. While typing that into a modern cell phone...
Somehow we are supposed to share this earth with people that don't even try to wrap their heads around the why and how of the things around us. And to me that's bad enough.. now it seems people are so tribed up they can't agree on basic facts about the world around us. I try to keep a sense of humor about it but at times it leads to big questions about how we are supposed to get out of this mess.
Agree.The exact underlying problem is that scientific consensus while based on scientific research, is predicated on consensus. People cant often find that so every manner of human system is directly influencing the outcome in the place of actual foundational truth.
What bothers me the most is kind of the extreme inverse of what bothers you, the assumption we have things all figured out. Most SMEs when you speak to them paint strictly in grey. Which is my favorite color for a reason…
Taking aggressive stubborn positions in extremely complex and dynamic situations has been the hallmark of the last few years. I think we are all extremely over it.
Sure we have iPhones, but by 2050 everyone on earth will statistically experience some kind of cancer. We cant even determine what people are supposed to eat and are literally poisoning ourselves daily. For all the steps we’ve taken forward we are regressing as a species at an alarming rate.
I heard KO3s will cure Covid..
Amen. It is interesting that no cancer patient has these kinds of arguments about science with their oncologist. When a layman argues with climate scientists who have spent decades learning and operating their craft we know it has become politicized.What bothers me is when people use previous science being proved wrong as evidence that science shouldn't be trusted. While typing that into a modern cell phone...
Somehow we are supposed to share this earth with people that don't even try to wrap their heads around the why and how of the things around us. And to me that's bad enough.. now it seems people are so tribed up they can't agree on basic facts about the world around us. I try to keep a sense of humor about it but at times it leads to big questions about how we are supposed to get out of this mess.
When a layman argues with climate scientists who have spent decades learning and operating their craft we know it has become politicized.
Who sees it as a farce? No one serious sees it that way.People feel justified doing that when they hear it’s easy to design research around a hypothesis. That’s what I was getting at above. When the people apparently doing the research so openly view it all as a farce.. wtf is anyone else supposed to think?
Who sees it as a farce? No one serious sees it that way.
That's the problem though, it isn't just laymen arguing. Kind of like the whole COVID mess. We saw experts being silenced/canceled and valid arguments spun as conspiracy theories. Now we see the evidence coming forward that they were actually right and Big Pharma money was behind this manipulation. What makes people think they aren't/can't do it in the case of climate change? Lot's of money to made there.Amen. It is interesting that no cancer patient has these kinds of arguments about science with their oncologist. When a layman argues with climate scientists who have spent decades learning and operating their craft we know it has become politicized.
The entrepreneur in me just looks at this climate mess as an opportunity to design solutions that will make me a lot of money. That is what I focus on now that I know there is a problem to solve and I can see it’s effects everywhere around me.
Just a bit curious, what kinda arguments were you hearing?That's the problem though, it isn't just laymen arguing. Kind of like the whole COVID mess. We saw experts being silenced/canceled and valid arguments spun as conspiracy theories. Now we see the evidence coming forward that they were actually right and Big Pharma money was behind this manipulation. What makes people think they aren't/can't do it in the case of climate change? Lot's of money to made there.
what were they manipulating, and who was behind it?Big Pharma money was behind this manipulation
Colbert's reality has a Left leaning bias, actual reality like biology and weight management is now considered "right wing"I like the Colbert quote "Reality has a well known left leaning bias". Whenever I present any evidence in support of climate change being real, or covid deaths being underreported (all pandemics in history, literally, have under reported deaths), or the efficacy of masks, my source is suddenly biased and I've been duped, and the other person shows me a you tube video with doctor oz telling me I'm wrong, then I get a "well you have your sources and I have mine".
It's hard to have discourse with people when we can't even agree on reliable sources, no common ground. With no common ground it's basically not even worth trying to discuss things. It just stops with "that's not reliable", both people think they are right but usually one actually is. Its a dead end.
Just a bit curious, what kinda arguments were you hearing?
When you say
what were they manipulating, and who was behind it?